Uh Oh...Noticing all the deficiencies after taking CSS

[xsephirot]

Just go with this:
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=110.A263.10

See how it feels and then decide if you need new calipers. You might not. I put one of these on my 748 race bike, and it was all I needed. Go crazy and get the clutch equivalent and you'll have a cool looking set-up as well.

That is one massively expensive master. How is the clutch equivalent beneficial? Even lighter clutch?

[Triple J]

That is one massively expensive master. How is the clutch equivalent beneficial? Even lighter clutch?

Yep, pricey. But if it makes it so you don't need calipers and such then it's cheap. It was the 2nd best upgrade I did to my race bike, only behind lightweight wheels.

The radial action should make the clutch feel lighter...but mainly it'll just look cool since it will match the brake. 

[xsephirot]

Yep, pricey. But if it makes it so you don't need calipers and such then it's cheap. It was the 2nd best upgrade I did to my race bike, only behind lightweight wheels.

The radial action should make the clutch feel lighter...but mainly it'll just look cool since it will match the brake. 

I noticed that it is adjustable. Basically you can pick between 19x18 or 18x20. What is your preference in terms of feel and power and any other comments?

[Triple J]

I noticed that it is adjustable. Basically you can pick between 19x18 or 18x20. What is your preference in terms of feel and power and any other comments?

Honestly I don't know. I just adjusted the lever to where it felt good.   Stopping power and feel were way better than stock, allowing 2 finger braking for all race/track conditions.

You may not need to go the full 19mm RCS route. I liked the adjustability and folding lever, and tha's what my mechanic recommended. He said it would be a massive improvement, so I got it...and he was right. You'd likely be OK with any upgraded Brembo radial master. This one would likely be just as good.
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10.4760.70

Now that I think about it, this is probably the one I had.
http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10.4760.75

[MadDuck]

You can totally knock yourself out upgrading your Monster. I know, having almost gone the max on my old one and then having sold it to a friend who is continuing the fine tradition. I totally tricked out a 999 and have pretty much gone overboard, and still going, modding an 848.

I am not the guy to discourage modding. No way. I fully admit to the disease and madness that afflicts me.  But..........

You cannot make a Monster into a superbike. A Monster is big, big fun on the streets and for most riding.  If you want to go fast and stuff turns or run on the track then save your upgrade money for a superbike. Or not. Just don't spend a lot of money on Monster mods and then be sad that it's not a superbike.

Comparing a S1000RR to a Monster 800? ........... You just can't do any justice there.  Some testers are still prefer the the S1000RR over the 1199 Panigale.  Gasp. 

[xsephirot]

Great points you make there macduck. That helped keep my head level. I can easily see this add up to way more money that just buying a dedicated trackrat.

As for the s1000rr over the new 1199 panigale from some reviews it is because the s1000rr was lapping some 3 seconds faster per lap than the duc.

[kopfjäger]

BMW S1000RR vs European rivals

[Autostrada Pilot]

My Monster could smoke any of those bikes.   

[DRKWNG]

My Monster could smoke any of those bikes.   

Mind passing along some of whatever is in your pipe?

[lawbreaker]

I'm just suprized that you are trying to compare two completely different types of machines

If you dont ride the S2R that often... or dont use your monster to commute ... and now feel you're the SBK type ( canyon blasts and track days)


Buy a SBK !!


I happen to prefer my S2R1k for daily duties cuz riding the 996 in traffic can certainly SUCK

[Privateer]

if you want a slightly lower bar position without going to clipons, you could try the suburban machinery bar.  It's a little lower and rotated a bit more downwards.  It felt much better for me without being to insanely low.

[xsephirot]

I'm just suprized that you are trying to compare two completely different types of machines

If you dont ride the S2R that often... or dont use your monster to commute ... and now feel you're the SBK type ( canyon blasts and track days)


Buy a SBK !!


I happen to prefer my S2R1k for daily duties cuz riding the 996 in traffic can certainly SUCK

I wasn't really comparing the two. I'm basically noticing some deficiencies in terms of performance that would be great. Don't get me wrong I love my monster but just wish it had a bit better things without costing an arm and a leg.

if you want a slightly lower bar position without going to clipons, you could try the suburban machinery bar.  It's a little lower and rotated a bit more downwards.  It felt much better for me without being to insanely low.

Not sure I want to go any more forward or down without more pullback as I'm only 5'6.

[xsephirot]

I have to admit the brakes on the BMW are astonishing, on your monster the 4 pad calipers from a 749/999 and the radial master from a 1098 or newer should help immensely though.  The calipers should run about $250 and the master about $175 used.

Where are you finding these prices? I've been looking around and everything seems to be grossly overpriced. I don't get how a ducati 749/999 caliper can be more expensive than a BMW s1000rr caliper on ebay.

[thought]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CJ72S5VPQ8&list=UUB_cdRhIDhlavY2I5URSC7g&index=4&feature=plcp

[OT]

Hmmm....

WSBK-race-winning/podiuming (sic) S1000RR vs. cool, 'starter-bike' S2R800.  I'd be hard pressed to find any noticeable differences there  

Nice article in a recent RoadRacingWorld issue about a fellow who stuck an air-cooled 796 Monster engine in an 848 (kept it all stock, I think).   Probably cheaper than modding the S2R in the long run.