Bike start but won't move.

[Cati]

Hey,

2002 620ie monster

I'm just tried my bike out since Nov 2011 and it won't move. It crank perfectly shift gears move when pushed but won't move in any gears. I had this issue I believe after a long period of cranking it up but after a few pushing it started to move. What can be causing this issue? Sensors, oil, clutch, etc... I had the bike checked before storing it away from the winter but now it's hot and I would like to ride today.

Thanks...

[Slide Panda]

Sorry having a little trouble following -

You bike has been sitting since the end of 2011? And this is your first time trying it in 6 months - yes?

So the bike starts, when you put it in 1st with the clutch lever pulled in what happens? Does the bike stall?

Is there any pressure in the clutch lever?

[Cati]

Yeah sitting since Nov 2011 but was working fine. Today I decided to ride but it won't move in gear.

When you put it in 1st with the clutch lever pulled in what happens? Nothing it just sit but when I slight push it it seem to roll on it own but slow stop paste. No stall engine sounds good. I had some new clutch level put on last year but bike still was working fine. I can recall sometime that the bike do have this slow push but usually it start riding fine. The clutch level seem to fill the same little tension but I have the one I can adjust 5 levels. Which level 5 is the tightest.

[Cati]

Somebody said check your chain inside the crankshaft but I don't know.

[Slide Panda]

You don't have a chain except the one from the engine to the rear wheel.

Usually, I'd suspect that your clutch plates are sticking together after sitting so long. but if that was the case the bike would lurch forward and stall.

So it behaves like the clutch is always pulled in? It rolls freely, in gear, with the clutch lever released?

[Cati]

When I put it in first gear it seem like it want to roll but not exactly I have to give it a push. When it's in neutral it normal. I tried each gear to see it I get a jerk or something but it just won't move. I also notice the speedometer doesn't move when I pull the throttle but I think that suppose to happen it the bike is not moving.

[Raux]

stupid question, but have you pulled the front sprocket cover off and checkedto see if the chain and sprocket are connected.

[Cati]

Not yet but adding to the list

[Slide Panda]

The speedometer will not change if the bike is not moving. The Tachometer will change with engine RPM - but either reading does not pertain to the issue at hand.

Some drag is normal if you were pushing the bike in gear with the clutch lever pulled.

Can you confirm your clutch master and slave are working properly?

[rule62]

I would guess that the new levers are not allowing the clutch fluid to return.

[Slide Panda]

Yep - the new lever is the most likely the source of your issue. There needs to be a minimum amount of free play. If you don't have that then, as rule62, notes fluid will not return from the slave to the reservoir. Basically, it sticks the clutch slave as if you have the lever pulled to the bar.

[Howie]

With the engine off if you put the bike in gear Clutch engaged) will the bike roll?

[Cati]

Hey guys,

I checked this morning and here's my results below. I also attached pictures of my clutch level. I notice in 1st gear the bike will pull on it own. I can actually ride slowly before it stop on a slight hill. It seem like to bike will pick of slight speed as it roll. To add to the subject, I'm also using a reverse click shift. Only because my other one bent and I needed a quick solution to keep riding. The reverse click shift I had for maybe 3 months riding good. For some reason I feel fluid may be the issue but I'm not familiar with the process.

Do you think I need to let it run for maybe 20 minute just to get things circulating. I haven't crank since Nov 2011 beside yesterday only let it run for may 2 minutes before trying to ride.

Raux
1. The chain is attached to both sprockets

Slide Panda
2. Yes when I got them put on I rode the bike maybe 1 month after before storing away for winter

rule62
3. "RE: not allowing the clutch fluid to return" (interesting but how would I check this out) I did move some of the cables around but ...

howie
4. Yes, I can roll the bike when the clutch is engaged.

[Slide Panda]

rule62
3. "RE: not allowing the clutch fluid to return" (interesting but how would I check this out) I did move some of the cables around but ...

Back the free play adjustment/actuator pin out a turn or two it won't take much. Or remove and reinstall the lever. If you remove the lever, the system will be free to return to a pressure balance. If Rule26 was right when you reinstall the lever the bike will work properly AT FIRST

I installed new levers on my 900 a while back and didn't allow enough free play for fluid to return sufficiently quickly to the reservoir. It was fine to get me out of my neighborhood, after a couple lights the clutch was slipping and I could see (dry clutch) that the pressure plate was not moving when I actuated the lever. I had the tools to adjust with me and did it on the spot - a little bit of backing out of that adjustment and I could hear the fluid flowing through the system to the reservoir and, in my case, see the pressure plate compress the clutch pack.

So if he's right you'll need to make that adjustment to ensure proper fluid return.

[Cati]

I'm hoping this is the issue, but will give it a try today. I had them put on by another mechanic but I know, I can handle removing and replacing the level. Can you see the attached image and let me know what number area I should focus on to get the pressure balance.

I called a mechanic but he wants $100 just to pick up the bike and if it's something simple I will still get charge a lot just for having a ducati...lol but seriously I feel it something minor but take time searching for the issue.