incradeble lag time in trottle response

Started by ducatigirl100, June 21, 2012, 12:34:20 PM

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ducatigirl100

Quote from: howie on June 21, 2012, 09:19:59 PM
Possible needle jet time on your carbs.  They wear oval over time and cause the bike to run rich on part load.  Only a guess, but a magnifying glass will tell you. 

I think this is your screw
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and your washers
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if you can't find them locally.

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uberranger

I had a problem that sounds similar on another
bike of mine (1996 Suzuki Bandit) where I would
give it throttle and it would almost stutter for a
second and then GO. It turned out to be a very dirty air filter...

Good luck

ducatigirl100

Quote from: ducpainter on June 22, 2012, 03:30:31 AM
Kinked vent hoses can cause a lag too.

Plugs usually foul, or are at least very sooty.

both   

I add a hose that was completely "collapsed" so I 've cut about 1 cm just so that the air would pass   :o

my plugs where full of carbon deposit whit some oil one one of them  :o


I would say the symptom is far less noticeable but it's still there

1) I've read somewere that maybe  it's' "valve check time ?"

2) when twist the throttle and pull back a little bit the motor seams to "catch is air" so in my point a view it's really crap in the carburetor ? [bang]

koko64

Maybe fresh spark plugs and if that doesn't improve things, a carb rebuild with new needle jets.
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ducatigirl100

Quote from: koko64 on June 23, 2012, 09:53:15 AM
Maybe fresh spark plugs and if that doesn't improve things, a carb rebuild with new needle jets.

spark plugs done  [thumbsup]

rebuilt the carb ... well  ...when I'll have the courage  :-\ I'm sure I'll be fine  :) 2 year ago I knew nothing about mechanic and now I know how to use a strobe light for The timing, sync the carb whit vacuum gages, bleed clutch and brakes , change brake pads....etc...  I guess the next step is a full carb rebuild  ;D [thumbsup]


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ducatigirl100

Does anyone know a good "rebuil" kit for Mukini carb?

Or I'm better of bying dynojet kit whit the K&N pod filters?

koko64

#21
I would consider a Factory Pro or Dynojet jet kit suitable  for an open air box.  You use a K&N panel filter DU 0900. I would suggest an open air box (you cut the top of the lid off), rather than pod filters unless you want the hassle of making brackets to carry your ignition components.
New needle jets are a good idea, (sometimes referred to as emulsion tubes). Factory Pro make them. Like DP, I prefer the Dynojet needle and you get a bigger range of main jets, which is important for an open air box or pods.
Check out the Dynojet site for your model and open air box mod (stage 2).

I'm guessing others will know  where to get gaskets, etc. Maybe SUDCO. Some local dealers may have rebuild kits.

We are here to help you when you select the jetting. :)

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wannabfast

with carbs, ive had good success with putting in new float bowl gaskets, and using a pin to clean out the jets and reassembling
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Ddan

Quote from: koko64 on June 28, 2012, 06:04:58 AM
I would consider a Factory Pro or Dynojet jet kit suitable  for an open air box.  You use a K&N panel filter DU 0900. I would suggest an open air box (you cut the top of the lid off), rather than pod filters unless you want the hassle of making brackets to carry your ignition components.
New needle jets are a good idea, (sometimes referred to as emulsion tubes). Factory Pro make them. Like DP, I prefer the Dynojet needle and you get a bigger range of main jets, which is important for an open air box or pods.
Check out the Dynojet site for your model and open air box mod (stage 2).

I'm guessing others will know  where to get gaskets, etc. Maybe SUDCO. Some local dealers may have rebuild kits.

We are here to help you when you select the jetting. :)



AFAIK, the Factory Pro jets use the same numbering as Mikuni, Dynojet uses a different system.  Keep that in mind when you're ordering.
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ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on June 28, 2012, 06:04:58 AM
I would consider a Factory Pro or Dynojet jet kit suitable  for an open air box.  You use a K&N panel filter DU 0900. I would suggest an open air box (you cut the top of the lid off), rather than pod filters unless you want the hassle of making brackets to carry your ignition components.
New needle jets are a good idea, (sometimes referred to as emulsion tubes). Factory Pro make them. Like DP, I prefer the Dynojet needle and you get a bigger range of main jets, which is important for an open air box or pods.
Check out the Dynojet site for your model and open air box mod (stage 2).

I'm guessing others will know  where to get gaskets, etc. Maybe SUDCO. Some local dealers may have rebuild kits.

We are here to help you when you select the jetting. :)



There is a Yamaha model that used the same carbs and IIRC they offer a gasket/rebuild kit.
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Howie

Quote from: ducpainter on June 28, 2012, 12:51:54 PM
There is a Yamaha model that used the same carbs and IIRC they offer a gasket/rebuild kit.

Yamaha TDM 850.  Same carb bodies.

ducpainter

Quote from: howie on June 28, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
Yamaha TDM 850.  Same carb bodies.
I knew you'd drop by and fill in the details.  ;D
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ducatigirl100

Quote from: wannabfast on June 28, 2012, 07:38:01 AM
with carbs, ive had good success with putting in new float bowl gaskets, and using a pin to clean out the jets and reassembling

Where do you get the float bowl gasket ? 

I must admit that I'm really scratching my head right now :-\ is there a complete rebuilt kit that I can by somewere on the web?....  I'm starting to think the easy part in all this is to rebuilt the carb... [laugh]    I've look up all the references Sudco, IIRC

I found this sold by my trusty monsterparts ;D http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/DYNOJETKIT/Fuel-Air/DYNOJETKIT.html

I guess stage 2 whit some K&N   is that what I really need ?

ducatigirl100

Very inspirational and it does answer a lots a little questions :

:)

http://www.ducatisuite.com/jetkit.html

koko64

Hey 100. :)
That site is very helpful with good pictures.
You can see the extra work if you do pods.

I would just have the open airbox with K&N filter. But to make life easier I would seperate the airbox from the battery box for future servicing.
I would make sure you replace the needle jets,  even if that is all you did.
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