Rossi returns to Yamaha, how will he fair?

[Speeddog]

"I know how to win, but maybe in Ducati it was only me who knew how to.”

SLAM

Rossi's selective memory just makes me laugh....

Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races in 2010 on the same bike that Rossi couldn't get closer than 1.5 sec off the pace in Valencia.

[gm2]

Rossi's selective memory just makes me laugh....

Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races in 2010 on the same bike that Rossi couldn't get closer than 1.5 sec off the pace in Valencia.

but we all know that what stoner could do on that bike literally no one else could, right?
 

[Speeddog]

but we all know that what stoner could do on that bike literally no one else could, right?

Absolutely. 

[ducpainter]

but we all know that what stoner could do on that bike literally no one else could, right?
 

So...

doesn't that mean that Rossi didn't know how to win?

[Triple J]

Rossi's selective memory just makes me laugh....

Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races in 2010 on the same bike that Rossi couldn't get closer than 1.5 sec off the pace in Valencia.

+1

but we all know that what stoner could do on that bike literally no one else could, right?
 

Maybe Stoner is the only one who knows how to win! [DP and I had the same thought  ]

I know Rossi has a point, but he should shut up about it already!

[gm2]

why should he shut up?  only once during two years was he openly critical toward ducati.  the other 99% of the time he was saying all the right things in the media.  over and over and over...


dp, i'm just ignoring your question.  

 

[Triple J]

why should he shut up?  only once during two years was he openly critical toward ducati.  the other 99% of the time he was saying all the right things in the media.  over and over and over...

Because it's over. If this was Stoner talking everyone would be going on and on about how big of a whiner he is.

[ZLTFUL]

We seem to forget that according to the telemetry for most of Stoner's races on the Duc, he should have crashed...a LOT.

Does this mean that Stoner is better than Rossi?
On the Duc...of course. Stoner had some serious voodoo magic going on with that bike.
In general? We will never know now will we?

Rossi did extremely will with a difficult situation when it came to publicity. I would have been kicking the Duc over in the paddock every time I got ready to ride it and then said I couldn't ride the bike because it fell over.

I don't think he is wrong in his assessment.

[ZLTFUL]

Because it's over. If this was Stoner talking everyone would be going on and on about how big of a whiner he is.

Maybe because Stoner came across as having a sandy vajayjay versus Rossi's comments in conversational passing. He hasn't been randomly saying shit sucked at Ducati. He only comments when asked specific questions about his time at Ducati.

[Triple J]

I don't think he is wrong in his assessment.

Me neither. The Duc clearly sucks...even if Stoner could ride it.

He hasn't been randomly saying shit sucked at Ducati. He only comments when asked specific questions about his time at Ducati.

Same as Stoner's complaints on various topics...he was always asked, and just told it like he saw it. I think the only real difference is that Rossi compains with a smile on his face.

[gm2]

We seem to forget that according to the telemetry for most of Stoner's races on the Duc, he should have crashed...a LOT.

technically he crashed many times per race.  we'll never know how he did it.

Me neither. The Duc clearly sucks...even if Stoner could ride it.

Same as Stoner's complaints on various topics...he was always asked, and just told it like he saw it. I think the only real difference is that Rossi compains with a smile on his face.

he also barely ever complains.

[derby]

Rossi's selective memory just makes me laugh....

Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races in 2010 on the same bike that Rossi couldn't get closer than 1.5 sec off the pace in Valencia.

i wouldn't say it was "the same bike..."

the very first thing rossi and burgess did was try to fix what everybody, including stoner, agrees was a very broken bike.

even if you follow the "evolution" of the gpxx through the 800cc era, it got progressively worse year on year.

[Speeddog]

i wouldn't say it was "the same bike..."

~~~SNIP~~~

Nov 7th, 2010
2010 MotoGP Valencia race with Stoner on board, finishing 2nd, 4.5 sec behind Lorenzo, and 4.5 sec *ahead* of Rossi (on a Yamaha).

Nov 9th, 2010 Test Day 1
Rossi on the Ducati, 1.870 sec a lap behind Lorenzo, who posted fast time.

Nov 10th, 2010 Test day 2
Rossi on the Ducati, 1.695 sec a lap behind Stoner, who posted fast time.

Rossi was on the same bike as what Stoner just got off of, yes?

[derby]

Nov 7th, 2010
2010 MotoGP Valencia race with Stoner on board, finishing 2nd, 4.5 sec behind Lorenzo, and 4.5 sec *ahead* of Rossi (on a Yamaha).

Nov 9th, 2010 Test Day 1
Rossi on the Ducati, 1.870 sec a lap behind Lorenzo, who posted fast time.

Nov 10th, 2010 Test day 2
Rossi on the Ducati, 1.695 sec a lap behind Stoner, who posted fast time.

Rossi was on the same bike as what Stoner just got off of, yes?

sorry, i overlooked that you were just referring to the post-season test.

that said, without knowing what his testing program was, i don't think i'd count those two days against him.

[gm2]

sorry, i overlooked that you were just referring to the post-season test.

that said, without knowing what his testing program was, i don't think i'd count those two days against him.

yeah, he was hardly in race shape.