Electrical connectors, looking to rewire M900

Started by hillbillypolack, September 08, 2012, 03:41:06 PM

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Ddan

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1KDS

ducatiz, did you use the 1.5 series or another product line?
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ducatiz

Quote from: DMFerFKP on September 09, 2012, 07:28:15 AM
Link?

Don't have an online link to it anymore, I bought it from a place in Germany.  It's not the crimp tool, it's the extraction tool.  The Crimp tool is like $300

Quote from: 1KDS on September 09, 2012, 08:40:42 AM
ducatiz, did you use the 1.5 series or another product line?

yes.  just like on the current model Ducatis
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Ddan

Quote from: ducatiz on September 09, 2012, 01:31:50 PM
Don't have an online link to it anymore, I bought it from a place in Germany.  It's not the crimp tool, it's the extraction tool.  The Crimp tool is like $300

yes.  just like on the current model Ducatis
Haven't got one yet but it's cheap enough to give it a try
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Ddan

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ducpainter

Quote from: DMFerFKP on September 09, 2012, 01:54:36 PM
That would cover the AMP connectors on Ducati, wouldn't it?
If you wanted to build a harness with OEM sized wires, I guess so.

I think some of the loads are a bit much for the factory sizing.

Suzyj will correct me I'm sure. :P
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greenmonster

"Have you re-used the connection couplers"

Yep, works fine f me.
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suzyj

Superseals are good for most of the wiring, with the exception of headlight, stator, rectifier/regulator, fusebox and battery.

For these, you'll need other stuff. I really like the metripack 2.8 connectors - I've used these for my headlight. They're good for 14ga wire and well sealed.

For battery you really need ring terminals. I recommend binning the stock rectifier and going with a Shindengen MOSFET one. More efficient and the connectors are awesome.

Go have a browse at the Eastern Beaver website. He sells lots of useful connectors as kits, plus his crimp tools (I bought all three) do everything from gauge wiring to battery terminals, including Superseals, metripack, you name it.


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carbmon

Suzy, any thoughts on the Deutsch "D" series connectors for motorcycle applications?

Between DT, DTM and DTP they cover AWG 22-10 and rated amperage per pin from 7.5 to 20 amps.

Lots of choice as far as number of pins per connector and the 'square' arrangement rather than side-by-side of the Superseals and Metri-Pack might 'package' better in some situations.

Maybe similar to the Sumimoto available from Eastern Beaver, they're available in (the US at least) from multiple sources, Batts Racing is just one example.
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ducatiz

Quote from: suzyj on September 11, 2012, 04:43:43 PM
For battery you really need ring terminals. I recommend binning the stock rectifier and going with a Shindengen MOSFET one. More efficient and the connectors are awesome.

do you know of anyone who has right-angle ring terminals?  Eastern Beaver doesn't have them

They are far superior for battery hookups imho and i'd like a box around.
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suzyj

Quote from: carbmon on September 12, 2012, 07:00:19 AM
Suzy, any thoughts on the Deutsch "D" series connectors for motorcycle applications?

Between DT, DTM and DTP they cover AWG 22-10 and rated amperage per pin from 7.5 to 20 amps.

Lots of choice as far as number of pins per connector and the 'square' arrangement rather than side-by-side of the Superseals and Metri-Pack might 'package' better in some situations.

Maybe similar to the Sumimoto available from Eastern Beaver, they're available in (the US at least) from multiple sources, Batts Racing is just one example.

From what I've heard, they're very good. However I don't have any personal experience with them. The Sumitomo connectors are very good also - equivalent to superseals. I used an 8 pin Sumitomo DL for my left-hand handlebar control (indicators, lights, horn). The way my bike is wired the headlight current doesn't go through this connector, but the horn current does, so I wanted something robust but still reasonably compact. The Sumitomo worked well there, and for a bonus it fit on the tab where the old connector went.


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