Battery Tender/ Trickle Charger alternatives

[DarkMonster620]

lift tank and use the stick to hold in place, use 10mm socket or #3 phillips screw driver to loosen Negative side first then positive side . ..  pull out battery . . . just did it on a customer's bike ..  not hard

or is a 696 from what brand?

just asking . . . don't see why so much hassle in taking the battery out . .  can you enlighten us with some images to see why is it so hard to take that battery out?

[dufukincati]

This entire conversation is stupid.  You aren't even mechanically inclined enough to change the battery? Take the battery out and charge it at home.

[eyduc]

But at least there is a "buffer of impedance" between the batteries and the charging current is regulated, making it a safer solution.

[DarkMonster620]

This entire conversation is stupid.  You aren't even mechanically inclined enough to change the battery? Take the battery out and charge it at home.

agree       

[sgollapalle]

Because I cannot find a stick to hold the tank  

Here is the process defined in the owners manual.. Cant get the images, but you'll get the point...
"Removal of the battery
Page:1

Important
For battery removal, ALWAYS contact a Ducati Dealer
or authorised Service Centre.
Remove the seat (page 63).
Unscrew the screws (1) and (2) securing the front tank cover
(3) but do not remove the cover.
Unscrew the screws (4) and (5) and recover the nylon
washers (7).

Page 2:

Slide off the right-hand tank cover (6), releasing the tabs (A)
in the corresponding slots (B) in the rear cover.
Repeat the above operations to remove the left-hand tank A
cover.
Remove the front tank cover (3) and recover the bushes (C)
and the spacers (D).


Up until here is not too complicated..

Page 3:

Unscrew the two retaining screws (9) and release the cover
(.
Withdraw the breather hose (10) from the cover (.

Page 4:

Withdraw the hose (10) upwards, leaving it attached to the
tank breather and drain hose unions.

Page 5:

Working on the right-hand side of the motorcycle, disconnect
the wiring connector (11) of the fuel level sensor from the
main wiring harness, unscrew the screw (12) securing the
side of the tank to the frame and recover the washer (13).

Page 6:

Unscrew the screw (14) and recover the washer (15).
Release the fuel hoses (E) from the clips (F).

Page 7:

Release the lambda sensor cable (G) from the tab (H) on the
tank flange cover.
Warning
Before removing the flange cover (16), make sure the
tank is empty and position a rag to collect any spilt fuel.
Hold the fuel tank in a raised position and remove the flange
cover (16) by unscrewing the nuts (17).

Page 8:

Disconnect the quick-release fittings (18) from the flange.
Remove the elastic retaining strap (19), remove the caps
from the terminals, unscrew the screws (22) on terminal
clamps (20) and (21), always starting with the negative
terminal, then remove the battery from its seating.


That my friend is the process.. which involves a lot of make a beast with two backsing around with fuel lines, sensors, and god knows what else once I get my hands dirty..

Its easier to change oil on it than the battery  

[DarkMonster620]

Ducati manuals tend to make more difficult than it actually is . . .

Just go into the job relaxed and in less than 10 mins you will have the old AGM battery in your hands and in winter you will be ordering a new Li battery .. ..

Believe me . . .

[dbran1949]

Did think of that, but wasn't sure how much energy I would be loosing converting from 12V to 110V and then back down to 12V. Which also means that 12v-110v inverter is always working because there is load on the other end.

These things are pretty efficient and the trickle charger pulls very little current from 115 VAC. But the bottom line is you said you would pull the deep cycle every month and recharge it so it really doesn't matter. The advantage over DC to DC is that the deep cycle battery can get pretty low and still produce 115 VAC through the inverter

[DucNaked]

It takes me at most 10 minutes to get to my battery on my 1100. It's not rocket science or Italian Black Magic. Just do it. You might learn something.

[He Man]

this a test. if u can take the battery out of the bike. u can do anything in the world.

[Meerkat]

Get a LiFePO battery and be done with this whole tender trouble?

[DarkMonster620]

It takes me at most 10 minutes to get to my battery on my 1100. It's not rocket science or Italian Black Magic. Just do it. You might learn something.

this a test. if u can take the battery out of the bike. u can do anything in the world.

Get a LiFePO battery and be done with this whole tender trouble?

 . . . 

[sgollapalle]

After considering all thats been said.. decided to go solar..



Its been charging well, and has been there for a couple of days now. Garage management hasn't seen it (or at least hasn't said anything) Hoping that the 2 days becomes 2 months, and 2 months 4, and its going to be summer again

[dbran1949]

is that a south facing window?

[sgollapalle]

Na. Its a North facing one. Not the best, but thats all I got 

It probably gets about and hour of direct mid day sunlight.. But I did notice that the status shows as charging (stable orange light) even when there is bright day light..

[He Man]

show me the math you did before you got that panel. i dont believe that you are benefiting from it.