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Ignitech TCIP4, again

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ducatiz

#105
July 01, 2013, 08:36:42 AM
Quote from: tibrocks on June 30, 2013, 02:39:52 AM
Hi guys,

I found cape's take on wiring both a TPS and a MAP on the Ignitech module which looks very neat  - would this work for Ducatis as well?  ;D and I believe the MAP must be connected to both intakes..
here is the topic on laverdaforum.com
http://www.laverdaforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=83123.30
cheers

Any custom option could work.

However, if you are ok with your Mikuni 38cv carbs, then buy a salvage set of Mikunis from a Yamaha TDM.  They are identical to Monster/SS factory carbs.  Rejet them to your preferences, and plug the TPS right in. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

tibrocks

#106
July 15, 2013, 06:15:08 AM
my base advance is set to 6 deg but I have noticed that while connected to the laptop, if I rev the engine the max advance displays 33deg with yellow highlight.. why that? isn't 36deg max advance?

ducatiz

#107
July 15, 2013, 06:22:21 PM
There is a lag in advance after around 5000.  If you have advance set at 36 deg from 4000 on, it will show a lag of about .5 to 1 deg every 1000 rpm past 5000 or so.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

krista

#108
July 15, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
- sub'd -

oh, and don't use 3 ohm Dyna coils. Our kit is only a few $ more and if you have any problems, we send out replacement parts without hesitation. Even if it's your fault if something went wrong. Our 1st run of coils were a bit much, they scaled it down a notch so the v2 models shouldn't EMI the ignitek so badly. ;D
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
official nerd for ca-cycleworks.com

ducatiz

#109
July 15, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: chris on July 15, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
- sub'd -

oh, and don't use 3 ohm Dyna coils. Our kit is only a few $ more and if you have any problems, we send out replacement parts without hesitation. Even if it's your fault if something went wrong. Our 1st run of coils were a bit much, they scaled it down a notch so the v2 models shouldn't EMI the ignitek so badly. ;D

when were the v2 started?  how can i tell them apart?
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

brad black

#110
July 15, 2013, 08:19:36 PM
the early tcip4 had a lag of 1 degree per 1,000rpm over 3,000 rpm, which you could see with a timing light.  the later units i had put a light on seem to not have that delay.  have you seen later ones with a delay izaak?
Brad The Bike Boy

http://www.bikeboy.org

krista

#111
July 15, 2013, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 15, 2013, 07:26:11 PM
when were the v2 started?  how can i tell them apart?

v2 started shipping in the past few months. They have the logo writing in a grayish silver color and say v2 on them. :) If you have old ones (have proper black logo on them) and want new ones, let us know and we'll send them to you. If the old ones work, they technically have higher output... but I haven't built a test bench for those yet!! Maybe that's "next"...?

@suzyj: check out my latest creation, you might appreciate it being able to draw an OpAmp circuit and all...


@suzyj and @Speeddog, check out fritzing.org, it really helps with designing simple circuits. ;D
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
official nerd for ca-cycleworks.com

tibrocks

#112
July 15, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
Hi guys and thanks!
it's true that my maximum advance is set to 36 degrees and on idle it shows that correctly but -like you said- on higher rpms it goes down to 33 or 34.
So is it reaching 36deg in the end? I mean, is it just a display problem or it actually won't pass 33deg. Should I leave it to 36deg max advance?

@chris
I haven't got the dynas, still on stock coils.. I've checked yours and as I'm coming to US in August I might order them there.. if not, could you ship them to the UK?

thanks a lot guys!

brad black

#113
July 16, 2013, 12:05:54 AM
the timing light will tell you what you have.
Brad The Bike Boy

http://www.bikeboy.org

ducatiz

#114
July 16, 2013, 07:42:37 AM
Quote from: tibrocks on July 15, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
Hi guys and thanks!
it's true that my maximum advance is set to 36 degrees and on idle it shows that correctly but -like you said- on higher rpms it goes down to 33 or 34.
So is it reaching 36deg in the end? I mean, is it just a display problem or it actually won't pass 33deg. Should I leave it to 36deg max advance?

No, it is not reaching 36 deg.

You need to change the curve in the TCI to compensate.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

tibrocks

#115
July 18, 2013, 04:08:36 AM
Thanks. will change the curve then

greenmonster

#116
September 08, 2013, 05:35:33 AM
Seems like possibilities f mapping beyond lobe in new version:

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/187881-new-unofficial-ignitech-manual-4.html
The other two changes I made was to enable the 'spark before lobe' feature I got with the latest firmware update and also re calilibrate the TPS.

http://www.ignitech.cz/english/tcip/tcip.htm
We produce new version V88 from 2013 year. New software for this version is here: TCIP4.EXE (version 88).



M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#117
September 08, 2013, 05:59:19 AM
Nice.  But no usb yet...  :-(
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

greenmonster

#118
October 05, 2013, 03:34:36 AM
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07
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