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Cucciolo
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frame sliders comparo
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June 29, 2008, 07:15:12 PM »
Hey ducatistas!!!
I want to get frame sliders and found these at a great price on ebay.. what do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140243430015&rd=1
Also found PUIG sliders look:
http://www.everything-but-the-bike.com/shop/store.php?crn=418&rn=796&action=show_detail
Is there a preferred brand? and why?
I thought that the longer the plastic, the more it will protect, is that accurate?
Any recommendations will be appreciated!!!
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55Spy
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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June 30, 2008, 04:09:16 AM »
I bought the T-rex ones and had them for oh...about a week and got rid of them.
Not enough od a slider for me to feel like they would do any good. they are less "obtrusive" looking than the others but it's a payoff
i suppose.
I don't really like the doorknob style it looks hokey to me.
personally I now run the cyclecat sliders and have never heard a bad thing about them after a lowside, some guys don't like how long they are but they work!
Got mine from motowheels.
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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June 30, 2008, 07:05:41 AM »
Quote from: 55Spy on June 30, 2008, 04:09:16 AM
I bought the T-rex ones and had them for oh...about a week and got rid of them.
Not enough od a slider for me to feel like they would do any good. they are less "obtrusive" looking than the others but it's a payoff
i suppose.
I don't really like the doorknob style it looks hokey to me.
personally I now run the cyclecat sliders and have never heard a bad thing about them after a lowside, some guys don't like how long they are but they work!
Got mine from motowheels.
But I wonder, how long do they have to be to protect efficiently? were the Rex's cheap material or you just didn't like the length?
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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June 30, 2008, 10:44:51 AM »
These are pretty nice, and more reasonable than others of similar length. They're on my shortlist, that's for sure.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-02-06-Monster-S2R-S4R-600-620-900-Frame-Sliders_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ35591QQihZ017QQitemZ270243673209QQtcZphoto
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June 30, 2008, 01:02:51 PM »
I happen to know that the cyclecats were long enough to not damage anything my bike after a kinda low-speedish highside.
the barend, tip of the stock mirror, and my brake lever has some minor scratches from the asphalt, but everything else was fine.
they are ugly, though... but hey, they work. anything shorter/"cleaner" looking woulda messed up my bars, if not more of the bike.
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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June 30, 2008, 04:35:52 PM »
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3249.0
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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June 30, 2008, 05:42:15 PM »
Quote from: msincredible on June 30, 2008, 04:35:52 PM
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3249.0
Bought the motovation sliders.. good price in the middle of the pack! thanks all!
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July 01, 2008, 05:43:09 PM »
I have had Speedymoto sliders on both of my monsters. The replacement engine bolt on the Speedymoto sliders is meatier than what is provided by some of the other manufactuers out there. Don't know how much of a difference it makes but it makes me feel better at least. They did their job on the old monster so I would recomend them.
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July 01, 2008, 09:47:20 PM »
+1 on the speedymoto engine bolts. I just hope I never have to see how good they work.
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July 01, 2008, 10:21:16 PM »
I have T-Rex on and don't have a clue whether or not they work. They went on easily (05 S2R) and the rod and Derlin bodies are nicely finished.
A thread on the old forum discussed an opinion that frame sliders on a Monster are a mistake. If she goes down w/o sliders you'll wreck a gear/clutch case and some bar end stuff (..maybe more, of course). You can spend moderate $$ and replace these items. However, if she takes a dump with sliders affixed, the frame will likely bend, perhaps rendering the bike useless, except for the spare parts listing on eBay.
I can imagine both outcomes being legit. It will all depend on the forces and vectors at work when the dreaded deed occurs. Something to think about.
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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July 02, 2008, 02:55:58 AM »
Quote from: julianista on June 30, 2008, 07:05:41 AM
But I wonder, how long do they have to be to protect efficiently? were the Rex's cheap material or you just didn't like the length?
Materials were fine, they were just short and I saw little benefit in a slow lowside. IT's really a matter of personal preference and looks.
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July 02, 2008, 08:09:22 AM »
Quote from: tangueroHondo on July 01, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
A thread on the old forum discussed an opinion that frame sliders on a Monster are a mistake. If she goes down w/o sliders you'll wreck a gear/clutch case and some bar end stuff (..maybe more, of course). You can spend moderate $$ and replace these items. However, if she takes a dump with sliders affixed, the frame will likely bend, perhaps rendering the bike useless, except for the spare parts listing on eBay.
I can imagine both outcomes being legit. It will all depend on the forces and vectors at work when the dreaded deed occurs. Something to think about.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT MAN!! I THOUGHT THAT THE SLIDERS WOULD SNAP OFF IF THEY GET STUCK ON SOMETHING WHILE SLIDING.. THEREFORE PREVENTING STRESSING THE FRAME TOO MUCH... MAYBE WE HAVE TO ASK SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ON A CRASH WITH THE FRAME SLIDERS AND SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS,,
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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July 02, 2008, 09:52:38 AM »
Quote from: julianista on July 02, 2008, 08:09:22 AM
THAT IS SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT MAN!! I THOUGHT THAT THE SLIDERS WOULD SNAP OFF IF THEY GET STUCK ON SOMETHING WHILE SLIDING.. THEREFORE PREVENTING STRESSING THE FRAME TOO MUCH... MAYBE WE HAVE TO ASK SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ON A CRASH WITH THE FRAME SLIDERS AND SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS,,
This is just my opinion, but my guess is that generating the forces required for the slider to damage the frame would involve a lowside violent enough that severe damage would likely occur regardless of the use of the frame sliders. Maybe not to the frame, but possibly enough that the bike would be totaled regardless.
Just a though.
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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July 02, 2008, 11:10:30 AM »
Quote from: XJBaylor on July 02, 2008, 09:52:38 AM
...generating the forces required for the slider to damage the frame would involve a lowside violent enough that severe damage would likely occur regardless of the use of the frame sliders. Maybe not to the frame, but possibly enough that the bike would be totaled regardless.
I agree. I've seen insurance write-off Monsters for resale and some only sustained minor damage, judging from the photos. However, there must have been a deeper damage issue if the Ins Co. wrote it off. I suspect that these could have been bent-frame issues that you couldn't pick up from the photo. Anyway, aren't all sliders on all bikes connected to the frame, either through a fairing or otherwise?
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Re: frame sliders comparo
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July 02, 2008, 12:34:24 PM »
I've got the CycleCats. They work well (I know from experience
)
That being said, it takes nothing to total a Monster - that tank is worth ~$1600, and the stock exhaust is borderline ridiculous in what they 'cost'. And the damage only has to be around 60-70% of the bikes value, depending on your insurer, to be 'totaled'.
That being said, a common practice for a bike owner is to 'buy it out of salvage with a clean title' for about $500 bucks, collect the insurance, and rebuild yourself.
You can get the tank fixed easy: Speedzone Paint & Body (Brad Diez) or DucPainter. After market pipes and bars, etc etc etc...
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