monster 796 not starting in gear with kickstand up

[gitter]

So I'm trying to track down my problem. When the bike is cold it wont start while in gear. (Will start in neutral then can be put in gear just fine)

When the bike warmed up (after about an hour of riding) it would start in gear. The only thing I've done with the clutch area lately is remove the slave cylinder from its mount to replace my front sprocket.

I'm open to ideas as to why this is happening / how to fix it.

Thanks

Gitter

[ungeheuer]

sidestand switch disturbed whilst you were front sprocket changing??

[Howie]

Won't crank at all or turns over too slow to start?  If it cranks too slow, clutch drag is the problem.  No crank, check the sidestand switch.  If the bike has a wet clutch this may be normal due to the cold oil.  Wet or dry, bleeding the slave might help.

[gitter]

It wont crank at all. It acts as if the kickstand is still down. But in neutral it will start up just fine. Is there any way to adjust the kickstand switch? (I'm assuming its the black piece that is bolted on top of where the kickstand pivots?

[Raux]

your clutch is dragging.
you need to bleed it.
pulling the slave off can cause it.
took me FOREVER to get rid of the issue.

[gitter]

Thank you sir. I was wondering if pulling my slave off would have any effect. Is bleeding the clutch just like bleeding brakes? Also...anyone off the top of their head, fluid I need for a 2012 796?

[gitter]

This makes me think its just dot4 brake fluid...but that seems odd to me. Can someone clarify?

[DucNaked]

Yup, dot4. 

[gitter]

sweet, so any dot4 brake fluid will work?

[Howie]

Yup.

[gitter]

And its the same process and bleeding brakes? (only reason I ask is because this is my first bike that doesnt have a clutch cable. That and sometimes ducati has an odd way of doing things)

[gitter]

I bled the clutch and it still wont start while in gear. I took the slave cylinder back off to see if everything was lined up correctly. I noticed that when I place the slave cylinder back onto the rod it will go on most of the way but at the very end it feels like I have to press it on. Almost feels like I'm depressing a brace caliper to put a new pad in. Is that normal??

Also the first time I took it off to do the sprocket, the rod that sits inside the slave cylinder rotated a bit, I put it back where it was at first then put the slave cylinder back on. Would that have anything to do with it? I'm starting to run out of ideas.

Thanks

Gitter

[gitter]

Another question, should the bike be in neutral when I reinstall the slave cylinder?

[Howie]

The bike won't care what gear it is in when bolting back the slave, nor would the rod rotating.  Having some residual pressure in the slave on reinstall is also normal.  I'm thinking you probably are having a problem with the switch on the clutch lever that allows starting in gear with the clutch disengaged or related wiring, particularly if the bike shifts well and you can find neutral with the bike running.  If you jump the wires from the switch and the bike starts it is the switch or adjustment.

[gitter]

Neutral is easy to find and shifting isnt an issue. From what I'm reading in places a Jumper mod is suggested for the clutch switch and kickstand switch. Can someone walk me through the process for both? (I know its simple but its the whole measure twice cut once thing)