Motorcycle Tire Torn Bead

Started by militar3rd, November 06, 2012, 02:44:18 PM

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militar3rd

For the first time, I tried to install new tires and I believe that I have torn the bead.
I was trying to force the b****h in manually and there was a slight perpendicular tear that was created from the process.
I still went with it, filled with air and the next day it was flat as a pancake.

Does this mean the tires are shot?!
2006 Kawasaki ZZR 600 (Track&Commute)
2001 Monster M900 Si.e. (Current)
1998 Honda Superhawk VTR 1000 (Sold)
1993 Honda CBR 600 F2 [101,000+ miles] (Sold)
1983 Kawasaki GPZ 550 [220,000+ km] @ Philippines (Donated to degenerate cousin)

ungeheuer

If you tore the bead forcing the tyre over the rim, then yes, the tyre is cactus.

If you have to force, you're doing it wrong. 



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He Man

theres no way to get the tire on without forcing it, its just a matter of how pissed off you were. it shouldnt feel impossible. if it does your doing it wrong. You could easily get frustrated and try to pry that bead over. What you should do is check if you applied lube in the right places and pop it out and redo it again. changing a tire by hand is defintely an acquired skill.

memper

Sorry to thread jack, but slightly related..
Anyone ever try the garbage bag method?
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Howie

Quote from: memper on November 06, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
Sorry to thread jack, but slightly related..
Anyone ever try the garbage bag method?

???

If the bead is ripped the tire is toa...cactus... particularly on a bike.

militar3rd

Yeah guys.
I was really frustrated at the front tire. It wasn't as easy as the rear tire, where it was a relatively easier fit. I believed I forced the bead so much that I thought I was going to bend the Tire Irons.  [bang]

I went over to a local shop here in the DC area [Shout out to the kind folks of Crossroads Cycle] where they stopped what they were doing and showed me how to properly do it by hand.

Went over down the street to the dealership and downgraded to a Continental Motion Pro, instead of the Pirelli Diablo  :'( ... On the upside, the Conti's are sold for around $55.00 not bad.
2006 Kawasaki ZZR 600 (Track&Commute)
2001 Monster M900 Si.e. (Current)
1998 Honda Superhawk VTR 1000 (Sold)
1993 Honda CBR 600 F2 [101,000+ miles] (Sold)
1983 Kawasaki GPZ 550 [220,000+ km] @ Philippines (Donated to degenerate cousin)

He Man

taht sucks man. i know how u feel about getting that front one on. the rear is easier the front is a smaller tire so theres overall less give.

my first tire took almost 30 mins to get on. now its about a 5-10 min ordeal. one of my recommendatiosn to everyone is go for a nice ride to heat up the tire. its much easier to get it on when hot.

militar3rd

Quote from: He Man on November 06, 2012, 06:28:02 PM
my first tire took almost 30 mins to get on. now its about a 5-10 min ordeal. one of my recommendatiosn to everyone is go for a nice ride to heat up the tire. its much easier to get it on when hot.

Yeah man, I saw this guy in youtube mount the front tire in 1-2minutes tops. I was like, that's easy, wrong.

For it to heat up the tire, wouldn't you need it to be mounted in the wheel in the first place? Or are you talking about getting the old tire off?
2006 Kawasaki ZZR 600 (Track&Commute)
2001 Monster M900 Si.e. (Current)
1998 Honda Superhawk VTR 1000 (Sold)
1993 Honda CBR 600 F2 [101,000+ miles] (Sold)
1983 Kawasaki GPZ 550 [220,000+ km] @ Philippines (Donated to degenerate cousin)

ungeheuer

Quote from: He Man on November 06, 2012, 04:19:44 PM
theres no way to get the tire on without forcing it
... I dont agree, but thats not important.  Maybe you and I just have a different definition of what constitutes force in this case.

Its a PITA changing tyres by hand, I never find it easy.  My point was just that doing it the right way doesnt require the kinda force which would do damage to a tyre. 

And annoying though ruining a new tyre must be, at least the OP got advice on how to do it right in future.  The lessons I always remember best are the ones I learned the hard way.....  :-\
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BastrdHK

God, that front tire is a b!@#%h.....I tore the bead on a pilot power, but only on the outside, and the tire held air for its entire life, actually still being used.  I gave up on it, because I was tearing up the tire, had already marred the powder coat on the rim.  For $20-$30 it was totally worth having someone else do it!  I have done it, and can do it.....but once you see that machine mount/demount the tire with ease, done no more frustration!
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