oil filter socket fitment

Started by dolphaxel, February 02, 2013, 07:43:41 PM

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dolphaxel

Alright so I need to figure out why no one can tell me how to get the damn filter off my bike. I have had this bike for 3K miles and I want to change the oil. When I got the bike I tore it down to nothing and rebuilt the whole thing, so when I changed the oil last time I put the filter on with no manifolds on the bike. To the point, with the manifolds on the socket won't fit. When I had a valve clearance done last summer the dealer put a new filter on and torqued it because I had a small leak there. I know they used something and another dealer is telling me to either pull the exhaust or use a strap wrench.


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He Man


Thermite

You can get a filter pliers at Walmart. 

I haven't had much luck with a strap wrench or band wrench.  They always seem to run into something before the filter moves.
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dolphaxel

Do you guys torque these to spec or just tight. I can just use a strap wrench if thats what I need to do, but I find it hard to believe that according to the dealer that I have the only bike with this problem.
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Howie

Torque to spec, but 7/8 turn after gasket contact will work just fine too.  A strap wrench should work to get it off as well as very large water pump pliers.  You can buy a K&N filter, part# KN-153 and it will have a 17 mm. hex on the bottom, drilled for safety wire.  The filter is good quality.

J5

strap tool is the only way , best thing ever
i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

BK_856er

Is that the motomfg tool?

I bought one and it didn't work on either one of my bikes.

Motomfg had me send it back, but they didn't credit me and wouldn't reply to any of my subsequent messages.  Not cool.

BK

brad black

i believe you lot call them channel locks:

http://www.engineering-tools.com.au/category952_1.htm

get the 16" ones.

it's all i use to remove filters on ducatis.

tighten it by hand.  you can go past the 11nm torque by hand.
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NAKID

Worse comes to worst, it's an old filter you're gonna throw away anyway. Just stab it with a long flat head screwdriver and use it as a handle to turn it out. Messy, but effective...
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Howie

Quote from: brad black on February 03, 2013, 01:40:07 AM
i believe you lot call them channel locks:

http://www.engineering-tools.com.au/category952_1.htm

get the 16" ones.

it's all i use to remove filters on ducatis.

tighten it by hand.  you can go past the 11nm torque by hand.

Some of us (me) also sometimes call them water pump pliers. 

ducpainter

Quote from: howie on February 03, 2013, 05:25:48 AM
Some of us (me) also sometimes call them water pump pliers. 
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Channel lock 209 plier (on top, blue handle) $17.95

http://www.channellock.com/209-Oil-Filter-PVC-Plier.aspx

This will work in OP's case.

+1 on K&N filter.


He Man

the Channel Lock ( a brand) is super high quality if you like every tool you own to be super high quality. Ive got some channel locks that are well over 20 years old and still get used and abused. but a generic filter wrench will work jsut as well and you can usually pcik them up for 5 bucks.

You will need to use it everytime you change your filter, its just a matter of comfort. they will all do the job. Just make sure it has teeth on it!

dolphaxel

I think I'm going to use a K&N this go around. I used them before on other bikes and had great luck. I think this is ridiculous. Its right next to putting a filter on the back of an engine block under the fuel injection as far as goofy.

anyone ever used one of these?
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=648943&group_ID=675601&store=&dir=catalog

He man I'm with you for buying quality tools. Buy it once and have it forever. Also they rarely break or break what your working on.
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