Kawasaki spitting all engine oil in the highway!! :(

Started by desmodoktor, February 18, 2013, 05:25:39 PM

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desmodoktor

hello ! i know this topic is not for the ducati forum , but i have a friend in need of your advice!
the bike is : 2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6r. full akrapovic exhaust. bazzaz Z FITC *fuel controller and quick shifter, Z AMF *air fuel self mapping... 6340miles.
recently we installed the bazzaz and the akrapovic exhaust, changed the oil and filter , all fluids ect....
my friend went for a test ride two days ago ... he did about 50-60miles normal speeds/rpms ... then he gunned it to 150mph... for  half mile or so..
when he was going on the ramp he leaned and opened the throttle .. traction control started working like crazy... i guess the whole rear was washed with oil including
the rear wheel .. so it started losing grip on the turn.. he got of the freeway shut off the bike and rolled to the side... there he saw the oil filter loose and the bike washed with oil.
turned off the ignition and called his father to pick him up with the van. when the turned on the ignition the engine light came on. got in the garage removed the drain plug , he had no oil in the bike. he put fresh oil and filter. start it up and now hes got a ticking sound .. on cold start ups... it goes away after a while. when the engine is warm the ticking isnt there.
2011 ZX6R Ticking Noise at the start up



please let me know abt what could have gone wrong in there.. and what to do what to test ect... thank you !!
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Speeddog

I'd guess that running it full tilt with no oil has wiped out one or more rod bearings.
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nickshelby500kr

Perhaps someone forgot to tighten the oil filter down....or at least check to make sure the rubber gasket from the old filter didn't stay stuck. Because then oil would spit everywhere until the filter loosened more and more...

Just a crazy theory.

desmodoktor

Quote from: nickshelby500kr on February 18, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
Perhaps someone forgot to tighten the oil filter down....or at least check to make sure the rubber gasket from the old filter didn't stay stuck. Because then oil would spit everywhere until the filter loosened more and more...

Just a crazy theory.

my friend went cheap on oil filter... bought a bunch of them for cheap... no , no gasket was left and the filter was tight....
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Rickrides

Quote from: nickshelby500kr on February 18, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
Perhaps someone forgot to tighten the oil filter down....or at least check to make sure the rubber gasket from the old filter didn't stay stuck. Because then oil would spit everywhere until the filter loosened more and more...

Just a crazy theory.

That's not crazy at all.  I had that happen on a Subaru when the gasket from a Fram filter stuck on the filter boss.  All the new oil spilled out and made a heck of a mess.  I check more carefully for the gasket on the old filter since then!  Live and learn.

Ticking sound that goes away as it warms up.  Could be a lot of things.  I'd think a rod bearing going bad would make more of a knocking sound and it would get louder but who knows?  As the engine warms the clearance obviously closes on whatever it is.  Could be a valve that's a tad loose, could be cam bearings--the top of the engine starves first in my experience and the cam runs right in the aluminum head I think.  It did on my wife's Ninja 500 when the oil pump failed and cooked that motor.  Fried those cams! 
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Howie

I can't tell from the video, but this may help:

A light tap when cold that goes away as the engine warms could be piston slap.  The noise will go away or diminish if you disconnect a spark plug or fuel injectoraffecting that cylinder.  If the bike has self diagnostics killing the cylinder will set a code.

A light double tap, increasing with load, decreasing in neutral could be a piston pin.

A light knock, noticeable with an increase of RPM/load and usually worse when warm could be a connecting rod bearing.  Killing the affected cylinder will help with that one too.

A main bearing will be a deep knock, most prominent at low RPM when transitioning from light load to coast.

A rattling sound could be a timing chain tensioner. 

Rickrides has a good point that cam bearings often go first from oil starvation on an overhead cam engine since they are farthest from the pump.

A mechanic's stethoscope can help pinpoint the noise.  A thin screwdriver can be used as a poor man's stethoscope.

Before going too far make sure you are not chasing something that is normal but you are only hearing now that running out of oil created a bit of paranoia.  Examples would be a hydraulic chain tensioner that quiets when pumped up or a valve with a tad too much clearance.