nickshelby500kr
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« on: June 26, 2013, 04:20:12 PM » |
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Apparently Mark at Ducpond isn't producing his hyperstacks kit anymore. Which is unfortunate. Is there any other kits out there besides TPO and Waspworks? Waspworks is out of the question due to insane price and I have other things in mind for tuning and the rest of my build.
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Stormtrooper
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 09:14:44 PM » |
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Does your 1100 have ABS?
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koko64
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 09:37:26 PM » |
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Corse Dynamics kit from Motowheels (sponsor)? TPO kit ok?
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nickshelby500kr
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2013, 05:24:48 AM » |
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Does your 1100 have ABS?
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 08:26:58 AM » |
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Yea..
When I was researching this same topic a while back I discovered ABS was a deal breaker for pod filters. The ABS control unit that sits right next to the intake makes no room for large K&N style filters. Everyone that has installed pod filters on the new gens are non-ABS models. TPO explained to me the only way to do it with the ABS bikes was to use MUCH smaller filters, however their dyno testing showed bikes actually lost power with that setup so they just never offered a version for the ABS bikes period. You will also have to make a complex bracket to support the battery as well as the ABS control unit as all that mounts onto the airbox. A potential work around is using straight velocity stacks and using a mesh style sock filter, that would get around the packaging issue but you would still have the bracket issue and who knows if that would lose/gain power?? It would look badass for sure...
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nickshelby500kr
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 08:57:55 AM » |
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Has there been ANY abs monsters equipped with pod filters. I'll be using DoWorkSon's bracket design and going from there
I'm starting to get annoyed with abs. It's lever feel is shitty and it makes bleeding impossible.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2013, 01:01:36 PM » |
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Ok, ABS related packaging issues,. Sounds like you are only left with airbox filter kits for performance.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 01:02:07 PM » |
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The reason that I went with the 09 1100S was because of the lack of ABS.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 01:17:17 PM » |
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Something to note, pod are cool and all (In fact, I have them on my bike) but I've learned that tuning them is a different story. Because of their nature, a bike in motion (lets say going 70 mph) takes in air differently than a bike on a dyno. An airbox helps even out the discrepancies between these two conditions a bit better that pods do.
Just a fair warning. They'll still work but I've had some minor issues with with my TPO beast system. Your results may vary and if you have an PC V w/ autotune setup, this issue may bee moot.
Just something to consider.
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 01:31:22 PM » |
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Has there been ANY abs monsters equipped with pod filters. I'll be using DoWorkSon's bracket design and going from there
I'm starting to get annoyed with abs. It's lever feel is shitty and it makes bleeding impossible.
To my knowledge no ABS equipped new gen Monster has pod filters. Doworkson made a great bracket, but it was not intended for ABS bikes. It will support the battery and ECU tray but has no provisions for the ABS control unit. Same goes for the Waspworks bracket. Like I said, between the bracket and lack of room for filters I gave up on the idea and just stuck with MWR drop in filter.
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nickshelby500kr
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 01:50:15 PM » |
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To my knowledge no ABS equipped new gen Monster has pod filters. Doworkson made a great bracket, but it was not intended for ABS bikes. It will support the battery and ECU tray but has no provisions for the ABS control unit. Same goes for the Waspworks bracket. Like I said, between the bracket and lack of room for filters I gave up on the idea and just stuck with MWR drop in filter.
Well where you left off, I'll pick up the torch. I'm doing this for the weight savings, I'm not looking to make CRAZY horsepower with this bike. 100rwhp is my goal, I've heard of hypers making it to 105 with exhaust, pods, and a good tune. From my research this is because the hyper cams are a hotter cam. Possibly putting a set of the hyper DP cams in my monster to get the additional HP. I'll probably make a new bracket so it holds the abs module. And I would be doing a ecu reflash on top of a pcv for the tuning portion.
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 04:06:13 PM » |
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Something to note, pod are cool and all (In fact, I have them on my bike) but I've learned that tuning them is a different story. Because of their nature, a bike in motion (lets say going 70 mph) takes in air differently than a bike on a dyno. An airbox helps even out the discrepancies between these two conditions a bit better that pods do. ^^ This. My solution was PCV with Autotune. Works well IMO. Here's a couple of pics of my set up.... I woulda thought there'd be room to mount ABS gizmometry to the RHS of pods??  
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 04:35:39 PM » |
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Impressive volume of those pods Ung. I bet the velocity stack is substantial. The bigger the better.  For Hypermotards, with the CCW tank, I wonder what is the largest pods/filter combo that would fit? Maybe a Shorai or somesuch Lithium battery might make some room for ABS unit relocation?
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nickshelby500kr
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2013, 05:10:54 PM » |
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I'll need to tear it down and examine first. Mhanis let me borrow his bracket to try and get replicated but then 2skinny emailed me the CAD file so ill just have the shop cut and bend me one. And once I get my bracket back I'll start mocking stuff up and seeing how to make the ABS module fit.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2013, 05:49:29 PM » |
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I'll need to tear it down and examine first. Mhanis let me borrow his bracket to try and get replicated but then 2skinny emailed me the CAD file so ill just have the shop cut and bend me one. And once I get my bracket back I'll start mocking stuff up and seeing how to make the ABS module fit.
Very nice. I vowed to tackle this install in the future so I'm glad to see someone else taking the lead! As the saying goes...make it happen' cap'n!
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