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2000 EFI: 900ss vs M900

Started by ducatiz, August 30, 2013, 10:44:47 AM

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Duck-Stew

#15
September 16, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
There's a dead straight tube running behind the carbs on a monster frame that will interfere with the throttle bodies of an efi motor. I don't know if the carbed SS frame has a similar tube.
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koko64

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September 16, 2013, 03:06:03 AM Last Edit: September 16, 2013, 03:22:09 AM by koko64
The SS frame has clearance for short manifold, split FCRs, so hopefully more clearance for efi. Lofgrens done it (efi conversion) so Tiz could check the mps site for the conversion to efi. Cant remember if struts got moved.

It's why I gave up on short manifolds on my '95 M900, Didnt want to cut 'n shut.
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September 16, 2013, 03:42:03 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 15, 2013, 08:49:53 PM
Define this "may" word that you are using...

may...Pretty sure on Monsters it's definitely in the way.

It may also be in the way on the old SS frame.

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September 16, 2013, 04:30:56 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 16, 2013, 03:42:03 AM
may...Pretty sure on Monsters it's definitely in the way.

It's completely in the way on carbed monsters. I gaurantee it as I've done a carbed to efi conversion.

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It may also be in the way on the old SS frame.

Hey! That's what I said!   ;D
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ducatiz

#19
September 16, 2013, 06:42:29 AM
Argh.  I really dont want to mess with the frame...  the old ss frame has enough issues....
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ducatiz

#20
September 16, 2013, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on September 16, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
There's a dead straight tube running behind the carbs on a monster frame that will interfere with the throttle bodies of an efi motor. I don't know if the carbed SS frame has a similar tube.

So the issue is the crossmember, not the width...?

I may just take the frame off and do it right.. shore up the yoke and re paint it.. Sigh.
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Speeddog

#21
September 16, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
A bit of perusing EBay shows carbie and ie SS frames having a diagonal crossmember.

Looks to be same location.... but YMMV.
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ducatiz

#22
September 16, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on September 16, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
A bit of perusing EBay shows carbie and ie SS frames having a diagonal crossmember.

Looks to be same location.... but YMMV.

I'll take a look tonight.  I did the final check on the new SSie and I'll be damned if it didn't fire right up after sitting for 7 months.  Had to put gas in it because they stored it dry at Coleman's because the tank hinge is leaking, but once I put in a fresh battery and a coffee cup's worth of gas, it literally coughed once and fired up, ran very nicely.

Shame to tear this bike down, but I am tired of dealing with the carbs in my SP and I'm not a "collector," I'm an "accumulator" so who GAS about originality.  Plus, I can always buy that SS engine that's been on craigslist for the last 5 years if I want to put it back.. (snark)

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brad black

#23
September 16, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
the ss frames are the same back to the cast rear engine mount from memory.  there certainly isn't a cross brace like a monster has.

the only real difference is that on the ie frame there's no brackets welded to the frame just back from the steering head to take the tank hold down.  and ie frames don't crack.
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ducatiz

#24
September 16, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
That would be awesome.

So dropping an efi in is a possibility?  Bolt in and swap the wires?
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ducatiz

#25
September 18, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
The bike is now home.



HFS that was the scariest ride home I've ever had.  The clutch is completely shot and one of the cylinders is missing once it hits about 4000-5000 rpm.

I am pretty sure it is just neglect.  The bike sat for >7 months.

Battery was new but discharged, I had tohave it jumped.

Anyhow, I will be looking at the transplant issues directly now.  I did not see interference issues with the 95 SS frame.  We'll see.

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brad black

#26
September 18, 2013, 03:52:11 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the ie airbox with associated crap fitted straight in, and the pump will swap directly over.  just plug the loom in and away you go.  easy as eh.
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