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bob795
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Re: Freak Fall
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Reply #15 on:
September 08, 2013, 06:35:57 AM »
Quote from: scduc on September 07, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
I'm no expert nor do I wish to be, it almost looks like a panic. I see the car in front braking heavy, just as you start to excelerate. That along with possible oily condition.
That (panic brake) is certainly possible and that's what I come to think what had happened and what caused the fall.
Pesto: No. my bike doesn't have ABS.
Blackout: Ouch, that looked really bad. My wrist, both left and right have been injured several times in the past from my sport activity. Looking at your x-ray photo I can feel the pain.
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 08, 2013, 06:57:11 AM »
When you get yourself some proper riding pants with hip protection, remove the crappy foam that likely passes for protection
and install something decent (I got some Sas-tech for little $ at Revzilla).
I did the front-tire-washout thingy on my dirt road as I turned onto my drive, not even panic braking (but loaded with groceries).
Yeah you want hip protection.
Keep it upright and straight and easy on the front brake whenever traction is compromised.
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Raux
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 08, 2013, 08:04:28 AM »
I'm going with the oil in the middle of the lane.
this is one of the reasons I use my rear brake too
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 09, 2013, 12:34:56 PM »
Glad you're okay. Much damage to the bike?
I too reckon you encountered some oil or such.
I was riding on a tight, twisty road last year, reasonably close behind a car, waiting for an opportunity to pass. The car slowed suddenly, and I grabbed the front brake hard. I was turning slightly right but was still amazed at the brute stopping power which nearly caused the front to slip out from under me.
After owning a VFR800i for many years and always feeling like you never quite had enough brake, these Brembos are incredible, where you have brake to spare with two-finger application. Awesome.
GK
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Will an ABS equipped Monster prevent Bob795
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September 09, 2013, 04:36:22 PM »
from crashing under these circumstances?
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 10, 2013, 05:47:28 AM »
Quote from: TWDucfan on September 09, 2013, 04:36:22 PM
Will an ABS equipped Monster prevent Bob795 from crashing under these circumstances?
perhaps it might have or not....since the exact "what happened" will never be known, it is hard to speculate as to the best answer for this....there is no "black box" with telemetry data that can help solve the riddle....
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 10, 2013, 01:50:43 PM »
From the video it sounds like you you accelerate just before you hit the brake. Rolling on the throttle will unweight the front end....reducing traction on the front wheel. Also, with all the weight going rearwards (accelerating) then quickly coming forwards (braking) could overwhelm the available traction. That's what it looks like to me on initial viewing.
Were you rolling on the gas? Sounds as if the bike revs up just as you start to pass the bus on the left. Or am I just hearing things?
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 11, 2013, 06:35:57 AM »
GK, not much damage to the bike just a broken foot peg, shifter, and scratched rear turn signals, clutch lever and bent frame slider and small scuff mark on the tank. The insurance will cover it. I have replaced the shifter, that's the first thing I replaced the next morning.
Other parts have not been replaced. Parts like the clutch lever and foot pegs will hav eto be bought myself, cause the dealer doesn't have aftermarket parts in stock. Currently I'm using the stock pegs, glad I didn't throw it away
mikeb, not sure if I accelerated or not. But I just noticed that there are reflectors in the middle of the street... in the middle of a lane. Not the whole street, but only on a section about 20 or 30 meters long on that particular spot. I guess they're old reflectors that weren't removed when the street was widened.
Bob
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 11, 2013, 10:41:00 AM »
I wonder if ABS would have prevented this?
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 11, 2013, 11:24:10 AM »
With ABS he prolly would of rear ended the car!
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Re: Freak Fall
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September 13, 2013, 07:23:46 AM »
Quote from: Stormtrooper on September 11, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
I wonder if ABS would have prevented this?
Good question and unfortunately we will never know the answer. ABS was one of the main reasons I bought my 2012 M1100evo, as I want every advantage possible on the street.
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