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« on: September 25, 2013, 12:46:41 PM »

Thinking I might upgrade my wheels this winter, but need to figure out true cost and budget according, if possible.  Would like some help on what else I need to/should consider.

Would be getting the Oz aluminum wheels (http://bellissimoto.com/OzWheels.html), mainly because they seem the best buy at that level.  I assume it makes sense to get a new rear tyre then.  Plus, I want to get my swingarm powder coated if possible and since the wheel is coming off, might be a good time to get that done.  New wheels require new rear sprockets, so there's that.  What else should be done since I am going through all this?  What am I missing?  What else will drain my wallet on this?

Wheels ~$2200
Tyre ~$200
Powdercoat ~$100 (pure guess here, saw an old posting on this board for PC services in NYC, but can't find it again)
Sprocket ~$70-100
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 01:05:20 PM »

well since your swingarm is off, you could upgrade the shock.

and then if your wheels are off, you could upgrade the rotors all the way around.

and then with your front off, you could upgrade the calipers

and then with the calipers off you could upgrade the forks

and with a new sprocket you need a new chain and new front sprocket

and since you have to take the rearsets off to get the swingarm off you could upgrade the rearsets

and then

and then

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 01:08:01 PM »

Don't put old wheel bearings in the new wheels. Not really supposed to put a new sprocket on an old chain either...
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 01:09:52 PM »

i would hope the wheels come with bearings
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 01:12:02 PM »

Don't put old wheel bearings in the new wheels. Not really supposed to put a new sprocket on an old chain either...
Why is this?

I ask because I just put a new chain on last winter.  ~2000mi on it.  If new sprocket is the same size, how can that hurt?
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 01:18:40 PM »

Raux, I would hope so too, the description on their site isn't very clear on that.

I don't know this for sure, about chains and sprockets. But I have heard that if you have sprocket teeth that are no longer true to their original form, they will wear out a new chain faster than it would normally wear out. Other way around too. I'm sure someone else can shed light on that, one way or another.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 01:55:04 PM »

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I don't know this for sure, about chains and sprockets. But I have heard that if you have sprocket teeth that are no longer true to their original form, they will wear out a new chain faster than it would normally wear out. Other way around too. I'm sure someone else can shed light on that, one way or another.

That's exactly correct.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 05:48:44 PM »

If you buy OZ's they come with bearings and 90 degree valve stems.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 07:23:54 PM »

 And valve caps with OZ on the ends of 'em!
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 08:55:08 PM »

And valve caps with OZ on the ends of 'em!
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 04:03:05 AM »

just for gigglez...why OZ over Carrozerria's?
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 04:56:05 AM »

just for gigglez...why OZ over Carrozerria's?

Oz wheels are lighter
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 05:13:39 AM »

I would like to see the breakdown of price/oz for each of the wheels to see what is a better deal.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 05:46:49 AM »

Oz because as Duh Luv said, they're lighter.  I saw something somewhere (maybe on this site?) that listed a variety of wheels by type--Al, Mg, carbon fiber---and had prices, weights, and maybe something on strength.  I will try to find and post if I can, but the result of it was I decided that Oz were the ones to get (for Al).
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2013, 06:06:22 AM »

Here's one source post, though #'s at bottom refer to sportbike wheels.

i think that the measurements showed that carrozzeria's were the heavier of the aftermarket/performance alu wheels, but priced accordingly and substantially lighter than the OEM. Especially the 3-spoke heavy mofo's from the 90's.

iirc, weight and price go like this:

weight, lightest to heaviest

carbon (bst, dymag)
carbon-mag (dymag)
forged mag (OZ, Marvic, Marchesini)
cast mag
forged alu (lightest OZ --> Marchesini --> Carrozzeria heaviest)

oem 5 spokes and other cast alu wheels

last place: brembo 3 spoke with the fattest part of the spoke by the tire.



From motowheels/monster parts data gathering:
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748-998 wheels:
BST Race CF w/ Ti doodads: Front: 4.4 lbs; Rear: 5.28 lbs
BST Street CF w/ SS doodads: Front: 4.62 lbs; Rear: 5.94 lbs.
OZ Forged Mag/Alu: Front: 7.25 lb., Rear: 8.50 lb. (Same number reported for both alu and mag, so not clear)
Carrozzeria Forged Alu: 7.5 lbs (front), 10.2 lbs (rear)

Ducati 999 Rear Wheel:
Marchesini Forged Magnesium Rear Wheel – 8.60lbs
OZ Forged Alum Rear Wheel – 10.65lbs
Marchesini Forged Alum Rear Wheel – 12.35lbs

DSS Monsters:
Carrozzeria Forged Alu: 7.8 lbs (front), 13.4 lbs (rear)
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