My bike (900ss engine) dynoed at 67.2 RWHP...should I be asking WTF?

Started by Rudemouthsky, September 27, 2013, 10:00:58 AM

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Rudemouthsky


   When I was first done with the mods I was stoked because I could do gas wheelies...then I started becoming very dissapointed in the power, espec freeway passing power. So I recently had it dynoed, thinking something may be up. Well the shop said the dyno found nothing wrong and the bike runs great, but that's my RWHP. I thought 900ss engines were supposed to be 80 fully stock, and I have a race exhaust, FCR's, and pods? is something wrong here? I'm pretty disappointed. Any thoughts on this? That's a lot of cash I put out to barely get more than my 750 was giving me...
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Dirty Duc


zooom

just to clarify what you'de done because I am too lazy to go dig and look...you just bolted in a 900 motor with FCR41's on right? You didn't do any hot coils, not head work, and no kind of bore kit or anything right?
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98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T

Howie

FCRs on their own don't usually add to dyno numbers, but the performance increase shows up on the butt dyno.  Some tuning and better coils, like Chris Kelley's Xact Fit coils might add to the numbers.

Rudemouthsky

I didn't do any engine work, no, aside from new rings. I bolted on the 900 motor and added FCR's. I do have CK's Dynacoils.

Thoughts?
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

Quote from: Dirty Duc on September 27, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
http://bikeboy.org/900SSwithkeihinfcr39and41mmcarbs.html

Dynos can vary... but there you are.

Ok then...I guess that's about right.  :-\. I really can't complain too much I guess...The "streetability" of this bike is great, it's super fun...I had just hoped for more top end power for my highway riding. And TBH I already thought my 750 was a fantastic street bike. Oh well.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ChrisK

Have you thought of re-gearing? What are your sprockets at? If you're running like a 43T rear sprocket it might 'behoove' you to come down to a 40 or 41 to get a little bit more top end.
1998 M900
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1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
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Rudemouthsky

Quote from: ChrisK on September 27, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
Have you thought of re-gearing? What are your sprockets at? If you're running like a 43T rear sprocket it might 'behoove' you to come down to a 40 or 41 to get a little bit more top end.

I ended up going with 15/41.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Dirty Duc

Quote from: ChrisK on September 27, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
Have you thought of re-gearing? What are your sprockets at? If you're running like a 43T rear sprocket it might 'behoove' you to come down to a 40 or 41 to get a little bit more top end.

I'll submit that with 67hp to the rear wheels, you'll benefit to going shorter on the gearing rather than taller as ChrisK suggests.  Top speed on a 2v Monster is usually drag-limited, you can pick up a few mph by gearing for acceleration.  It will rev higher at a given road speed, but it might make it feel a little more peppy.

I'm running 15/45 on the 800...

ChrisK

Yeah, well you can always come down to 39... or just buy the S4RS you're after  [beer]

Play around with gearingcommander.com if you're interested in that.
1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

ChrisK

Quote from: Dirty Duc on September 27, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
I'll submit that with 67hp to the rear wheels, you'll benefit to going shorter on the gearing rather than taller as ChrisK suggests.  Top speed on a 2v Monster is usually drag-limited, you can pick up a few mph by gearing for acceleration.  It will rev higher at a given road speed, but it might make it feel a little more peppy.

I'm running 15/45 on the 800...

I suggested to come down on teeth just because I thought he wanted more top end, maybe I misunderstood his desired results.
1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

Dirty Duc

Quote from: ChrisK on September 27, 2013, 12:39:49 PM
I suggested to come down on teeth just because I thought he wanted more top end, maybe I misunderstood his desired results.

I am interpreting Buck's concern as an acceleration problem - a smaller rear sprocket will make the bike accelerate slower and thus feel under-powered.  It will make the nominal (calculated) top speed higher, but neglects the (lack of) aerodynamics of a Monster.

Larger rear sprocket (or smaller front sprocket) has the opposite effect: accelerate more quickly, but with a lower theoretical maximum speed.  On a 2v Monster (relatively under-powered for a motorcycle) the key is to balance the limitations of aerodynamics with the limitations of the gearing (keeping in mind rider preferences and "normal" use for the particular bike).

Rudemouthsky

I get what both of you are saying.  But I believe my issue is just power...I love the way the bike pulls around town and in the twisties. I just wish I had more "oomph" when I'm accelerating from around 70-80 mph or so. I want to be able to blow by asshole cagers on the freeway a little easier.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Steve.In.Atlanta

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 27, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
I get what both of you are saying.  But I believe my issue is just power...I love the way the bike pulls around town and in the twisties. I just wish I had more "oomph" when I'm accelerating from around 70-80 mph or so. I want to be able to blow by asshole cagers on the freeway a little easier.

Drop 2 gears and give them bird as you go by. That'll make you look even faster!
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1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Mk3 (project bike)
2001 Monster 900S (stolen)

Dirty Duc

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 27, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
I get what both of you are saying.  But I believe my issue is just power...I love the way the bike pulls around town and in the twisties. I just wish I had more "oomph" when I'm accelerating from around 70-80 mph or so. I want to be able to blow by asshole cagers on the freeway a little easier.
And that's why I run the gearing I do.