2013 MotoGP Round 16 - Phillip Island (Spoilers!)

[gm2]

I suffered the "hurricane" at Indy

me too

[koko64]

If unpredictable track temps aren't confined to PI, then thats less excuse.

The end of the control tyre, or a chance for Dunlop/Michelin/Pirelli to swoop in?

[zooom]

BTW...we keep harping on Bridgestone for the GP tires, but Dunlop apparently had similar issues in Moto2 and 3, and Dunlop seems to be having less issues than Bridgestone from what I can see overall...but they got it wrong too.

[The Architect]

Bridgestone?  Tires?

Wasn't it a few years ago when the riders had to manage their tires on their own?  They should have warned the riders and just reduced the number of laps.  Then the riders would have to play it smart and make sure they left themselves enough tire to finish. 

[Triple J]

Bridgestone?  Tires?

Wasn't it a few years ago when the riders had to manage their tires on their own?  They should have warned the riders and just reduced the number of laps.  Then the riders would have to play it smart and make sure they left themselves enough tire to finish. 

Umm...no. There's a huge difference between the tire just wearing out and the rider managing the reduced grip vs. the tire destroying itself from the inside out with much less predictable results. MM's tire had huge chunks missing from it after only 11 laps.

[OT]

I like their golf balls....

[ducpainter]

I like their golf balls....

Adding pit stops would be easy - just make the gas tanks smaller....

So, the rules were changed for this race to handle the tire wear and no 'meeting' was held with all the teams to make sure all was clearly understood?

You expected more from Dorna...really?

[koko64]

Yep. Teams got a memo, dunno how many A4s it was.

As a sole tyre supplier under contract, and having not tested, Bridgestone failed in their duty of care. It wasnt like they tested and this came out of nowhere. PI has a history with being hard on tyres. Glad they spotted in the end.

[OT]

You expected more from Dorna...really?

Call me naive, if you must, but if they should at least have had the thirty-seconds it would have taken to go over the sheets (or at least to have held up both hands with all fingers spread out when walking around to the pits) with each team, as visited, to make sure it was clear.  

For all the $$$ the greedy muckety-mucks are glomming off this business, someone above the level of janitor should understand/admit that with authority comes responsibility - can't separate the two.

[derby]

Call me naive, if you must, but if they had the time to hand out the sheets, they should at least have had the thirty-seconds it would have taken to go over the sheets (or at least held up both hands with all fingers spread out) with each team, as visited, to make sure it was clear.  It's not like they were doing this on the corner of Fifth and 42nd during rush hour....

For all the $$$ the greedy muckety-mucks are glomming off this business, someone above the level of janitor should understand that with authority comes responsibility - can't separate the two.

honda, admittedly, was purposefully trying to take advantage of a perceived loophole in the rule as written. if they had asked for clarification, the loophole would've been closed.

they gambled. they lost.

[Ddan]

honda, admittedly, was purposefully trying to take advantage of a perceived loophole in the rule as written. if they had asked for clarification, the loophole would've been closed.

they gambled. they lost.

If that's the case,  why did Pedrosa come in early?

[OT]

honda, admittedly, was purposefully trying to take advantage of a perceived loophole in the rule as written. if they had asked for clarification, the loophole would've been closed.

they gambled. they lost.

(Rule) 3. - "No rider is permitted to make more than 10 laps..."

Seems pretty clear, even for someone who's first language isn't English.  Even though (Rule) 2 could be misconstrued, 3 makes it plainly clear, to me at least.

The Black flag doesn't seem too harsh insofar as tempting a catastrophic tire failure could have proved harmful to one's own and one's competitors' health.

[Ddan]

(Rule) 3. - "No rider is permitted to make more than 10 laps..."

Seems pretty clear, even for someone who's first language isn't English.  Even though (Rule) 2 could be misconstrued, 3 makes it plainly clear, to me at least.

The Black flag doesn't seem too harsh insofar as tempting a catastrophic tire failure could have proved harmful to one's own and one's competitors' health.

Again, to Pedrosa, he put 11 laps on his second tire

[ducpainter]

Again, to Pedrosa, he put 11 laps on his second tire

How do you figure?

[Ddan]

How do you figure?

He came in on lap 9