Monster 1200S hmmmmmmmm.....

Started by dan_t, November 05, 2013, 03:21:27 AM

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Betty

Quote from: Mr.S2R on January 23, 2014, 03:28:47 AM
meh it's a poor man's Diavel - may as well call it the 1200B - for Belmont...

Don't you mean the Diavel Superlight ... apparently the Monster is about 30kg lighter ... that normally means it would be more expensive!
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Mr.S2R

Quote from: Betty on January 23, 2014, 10:03:39 PM
Don't you mean the Diavel Superlight ... apparently the Monster is about 30kg lighter ... that normally means it would be more expensive!

Betty, once again gold.  :)  They could paint it yellow and put a big number 1 on the tank with a limited edition plate...  ;D

I guess at the end of the day there really is nowhere Ducati can go for the Monster.  They have gone through all the evolutions they possibly have without deviating far from the original concept.  I still love Ducati, but in my opinion the S2R/S4R was the pinnacle of the design.  If I am in a position to purchase another Ducati, it will be of that S2R/S4R vintage, or a Diavel.

Be I bold as to say the chapter should be closed on the Monster?

Long live the Monster!

loony888

Quote from: techno on January 22, 2014, 06:51:31 PM
Reviving this to see if its growing on anyone else.  ;D

I would like to get a look at one in real life as I know things can look different in photos. I've only just picked up on the rear wheel being so far back. Its more prominent in some angles. Makes me think of all those stretched drag bikes with extended swing arms.


saw one at the QLD expo today, and in real life its quite nice, the rear wheel is bland with approval wording cast into it which looks cheap, the small headlight which i wasn't a fan of looks good, the seat looks nice, plenty of pillion room which is important to me and It's dimensions look appropriate.

the lower power output compared to the diavel is due to the smaller headers, i'd put the full termi system on it, along with a fly screen and a carbon hugger to get rid of the stupid huge rear guard!
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Scoober1103

Got to sit on it and have a feel. Very different to the 1100. For a 5'6 rider it is more upright with wider bars. The seat and tank shape will keep the 'boys' happy.

Quote from: loony888 on March 23, 2014, 01:35:04 AM
the lower power output compared to the diavel is due to the smaller headers,

a carbon hugger to get rid of the stupid huge rear guard!


Yeah not quite sure why they fitted that rear hugger, haven't seen it in any pictures! The Ducati representative didn't have a clue either. But the particular representative I was talking to was at the launch in Spain and his opinion was the lower HP was to bring up the low down torque which he claims is phenomenal right from the get go!

Overall I loved it, looks great in person!
09 M1100 + stuff.
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Quote from: koko64 on April 02, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Don't buy cheap shit, it can cut your balls off.

Betty

Considering I haven't been able to see what you guys saw ... would I be correct in assuming it may be some sort of ADR compliance 'solution'?

Do you have any pics to share?
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Scoober1103

Sorry Betty all the pics are on my brothers camera but yes it looks to be an ADR afterthought over kill not unlike this


truck fender by scoober11031, on Flickr

from swing arm pivot to behind the mud cutter!

[puke]
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Quote from: koko64 on April 02, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Don't buy cheap shit, it can cut your balls off.

Bazz21

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Scoober1103

Quote from: Bazz21 on March 23, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Miscellaneous/th1/Ducati-Monster-1200-S-2.jpg
http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/index.do

The 1200s on display at the moto expo in Brisbane had an extra guard not pictured in either of those links that looked pretty much the same as the picture I posted running from front to back over the top of the tyre. The whole top section of tyre.

Easily removed and replaced with a normal size and shaped hugger though as pictured above.
09 M1100 + stuff.
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Quote from: koko64 on April 02, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Don't buy cheap shit, it can cut your balls off.

J5

Quote from: Scoober1103 on March 23, 2014, 04:11:07 PM
Got to sit on it and have a feel. Very different to the 1100. For a 5'6 rider it is more upright with wider bars. The seat and tank shape will keep the 'boys' happy.

Yeah not quite sure why they fitted that rear hugger, haven't seen it in any pictures! The Ducati representative didn't have a clue either. But the particular representative I was talking to was at the launch in Spain and his opinion was the lower HP was to bring up the low down torque which he claims is phenomenal right from the get go!

Overall I loved it, looks great in person!

it would be to meet adrs

rear wheel must be covered draw a 45 degree angle from the rear axle with 30kg on the seat

to stop stones flying out i guess
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Quote from: Betty on March 23, 2014, 05:07:44 PM
Considering I haven't been able to see what you guys saw ... would I be correct in assuming it may be some sort of ADR compliance 'solution'?

Do you have any pics to share?

The rear hugger definantly looks like that picture of that truck guard  [thumbsdown]
a quick add on to meet the Australian adrs is all can say [thumbsdown]

Did see the bikes on the production line last month for the US market,and one in the factory show room.
I think their on a winner with this one, depending on the price  20,000 euro in Italy :P




Ducati factory show room no crappy hugger only the stupid little mud flap thingy.
the mirrors look ok and the new clear plastic reserviors arn't bad either :)




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I saw it at the expo too and thought it was porn on wheels, except for that rear guard, which would be easily removable.  The guard kind of felt flimsy too, but that is probably because it is an add on for ADR as said above.

Two dogs

Better get that Tri colour on bike sales Rob
That thing is made for you  [thumbsup]

Sundog

I see they finally got around to putting in a rear shock with a reservoir.
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Scoober1103

Quote from: Sundog on March 24, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
I see they finally got around to putting in a rear shock with a reservoir.

Only on the S by the looks of it!
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Quote from: koko64 on April 02, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Don't buy cheap shit, it can cut your balls off.

loony888

yeah, the rear guard looks stupid, as it's only applied to bikes with the number plate mounted to the swing arm i reckon it has more to do with pillions maybe getting a limb caught between the tyre and the number plate causing the huge cover, dunno, but it only seems to be fitted on bikes with that style of number plate holder.

The rear shock is a bit of a let down to me, the previous bikes all had a rising rate linkage, now it's just a cantilever, like the belt SS of years ago, bit disappointing, hope the ohlins does a good job....
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