Triple 9 Matris shock on an S2R1K

[Monstermash]

I believe he was talking about the 999shock on the S4Rs not the S2R1000. I assume the different heads require a different header pipe setup so the 999shock wont fit.

 Maybe, But I do know that Q has an S2R800 so I can't imagine he would be referring to an S4R.

[He Man]

Good Ish Mash.

I need a new rear shock for my S4Rt, and damnit, that Ohlins is over 1K new (the hydr preload adjuster, etc).  I'm gonna see about fitting my stock 999 shock first, but even that would be a HUGE improvement in the SACH (sucks?) POS ducati put on there stock.  Talk about a saggy ass.....

this guys post?

this is my next mod. 999 shock. cheepie too.

[Monstermash]

this guys post?

 Ahhhh. I must have missed it. Sorry. 

[TAftonomos]

Ahhhh. I must have missed it. Sorry. 

Yup, it was me.  I'll have my bike back tomorrow to confirm the 999 shock not fitting because of the header pipe.  It's hard to drop 9 bills on a shock for me anyway.....

Might give me an excuse to go ahead and build the exhaust I want, so I can use a 999 based shock

[He Man]

Yup, it was me.  I'll have my bike back tomorrow to confirm the 999 shock not fitting because of the header pipe.  It's hard to drop 9 bills on a shock for me anyway.....

Might give me an excuse to go ahead and build the exhaust I want, so I can use a 999 based shock

Im hoping you mean you dont want to pay 900 on an matris!

Now if your going to off that 999 shock you give me a price and let me know. im very intrested i just need a reason to not pay of my credit cards!

[Monstermash]

Yup, it was me.  I'll have my bike back tomorrow to confirm the 999 shock not fitting because of the header pipe.  It's hard to drop 9 bills on a shock for me anyway.....

Might give me an excuse to go ahead and build the exhaust I want, so I can use a 999 based shock

 According to your sig you have an S4R right? So I'm curious why you would replace the fully adjustable shock that came with the bike?

[TAftonomos]

S4RT, not S.   I'm a firm believer in having the suspension set up for you, and not some generic #.   Buy the non-ohlins bike, and outfit it to your specs....besides the stock ohlins stuff is built to a much lower "price point" than the Ohlins you buy from Ohlins.   In mayn cases, for much less, you can make the stock showa stuff work better than the ohlins by having it re-sprung/valves for you.

The S4Rt comes with an adjustable POS SACHS thing on there.  No one will touch it as far as revalving it.  Several people have had them apart, and a few say that different shocks were put together with with the piston inverted, parts missing, basically bad quality control on sachs part.

$870 is what Dan Kyle quoted me on the DU333 for my S4Rt.  It's a nice piece, but I've already got a spare showa rear shock for my 999 laying around, so this looked like a good opportunity to have it re-sprung/valved, and use it instead of spending almost 900 bucks....

Fitting the 999 shock may still be an option, as I'm on the fence about making a custom exhaust (similar to yours Mash).   I'm hesitant because I'm not sure how much, if any, it's going to kill the power....and of course how loud will it be.....

[Monstermash]

S4RT, not S.   I'm a firm believer in having the suspension set up for you, and not some generic #.   Buy the non-ohlins bike, and outfit it to your specs....besides the stock ohlins stuff is built to a much lower "price point" than the Ohlins you buy from Ohlins.   In mayn cases, for much less, you can make the stock showa stuff work better than the ohlins by having it re-sprung/valves for you.

The S4Rt comes with an adjustable POS SACHS thing on there.  No one will touch it as far as revalving it.  Several people have had them apart, and a few say that different shocks were put together with with the piston inverted, parts missing, basically bad quality control on sachs part.

$870 is what Dan Kyle quoted me on the DU333 for my S4Rt.  It's a nice piece, but I've already got a spare showa rear shock for my 999 laying around, so this looked like a good opportunity to have it re-sprung/valved, and use it instead of spending almost 900 bucks....

Fitting the 999 shock may still be an option, as I'm on the fence about making a custom exhaust (similar to yours Mash).   I'm hesitant because I'm not sure how much, if any, it's going to kill the power....and of course how loud will it be.....

 I never really looked at the shock on the S4Rt but I guess I just assumed it was a Showa. I do agree that having the suspension set up for you is the right thing to do, and that the Sachs stuff if awful.

 Anyway, let us know how this works out for you. I'm also curious to know how much different the exhaust is on your bike than the S2R's. I may have to take a ride down to my dealer today just to satisfy my curiosity.

[Monstermash]

Ok I just returned from my local dealer. I can't see where installing the 999 Showa shock on an S4R will be any problem at all. The exhaust is in the exact same location at my S2R. The reservoir is located on the 999 Showa in the same place as the one on my Matris so I can't forsee a problem anywhere.

 Post up some pics after you've got it installed. 

[TAftonomos]

A quick glance and there isn't any reason why it shouldn't fit.  If anything, the resivior is angled further back, just like the Matris you used, than the stocker.

As long as there arn't any big differences with the frame/pivot point (same frames?), then this should be a bolt on affair like your bike.

It should still be re-sprung to fit my weight, but it should be loads above the sachs crap, and it will let me put 8 bills to another part of the bike (or the 999 track bike.....tires )

Mash, what is your weight w/gear...  I'm thinking the spring on this one is to soft as well....I heard the 999 is sprung stock for ~175lb rider.

[Monstermash]

A quick glance and there isn't any reason why it shouldn't fit.  If anything, the resivior is angled further back, just like the Matris you used, than the stocker.

As long as there arn't any big differences with the frame/pivot point (same frames?), then this should be a bolt on affair like your bike.

It should still be re-sprung to fit my weight, but it should be loads above the sachs crap, and it will let me put 8 bills to another part of the bike (or the 999 track bike.....tires )

Mash, what is your weight w/gear...  I'm thinking the spring on this one is to soft as well....I heard the 999 is sprung stock for ~175lb rider.

 I'm about 220 with full gear. The spring is a bit soft on the Matris but I'll deal with it through the end of the season and I'll send it to Jason at D.O.S. and have him install the new spring. I'm planning on powdercoating the swingarm over the winter anyway so the shock will have to come out for that.

[TAftonomos]

As suspected, it fits without issues to the exhaust. 

As you pointed out, the breather box must be replaced.  Right now I'm working on a good solution for that. 

I'm not sure if the box is nessicary to keep oil from finding a way into the airbox, but I'd like to find out before I scrap it off the bike.

[Monstermash]

As suspected, it fits without issues to the exhaust. 

As you pointed out, the breather box must be replaced.  Right now I'm working on a good solution for that. 

I'm not sure if the box is nessicary to keep oil from finding a way into the airbox, but I'd like to find out before I scrap it off the bike.

 I just used a K&N crankcase breather filter # 62-1360 and removed the box completely. I've had zero issues thus far and it's been to the track.

[TAftonomos]

I'll check around with other testa owners and see what they have found.  I'm not discounting your results, I'm wondering if the 998cc motor and reving to 11k will make a difference.

[He Man]

there are 2 negative side effects to the crank case breather mod.

1) if oil spits into your airbox, there is no way for it to go back into the engine. You would need to clea nit yourself, or it would eventually get sucked into the intake and burn with everything else.
2) if oil gets spit up the crank case breather, it might end up on your engine, rear wheel, or anything that the exit hole is pointing at.

There was also the case where there was gas comming out of the crankcase (looked like steam) because of some reason i cant remember.

I thought about this issue, and figured the best way would be the mount the crank case breather with a U bend in it to catch the oil, or some sort of sheild around the filter. For scenario 1, the only instance where i ever ha oil spit up the breather tube is when im over filled on oil. This has happened only twice, both when i was 1/2 quart over filled, one was a 95 900, and my current 06 S2R1k. So i dont think it would be that much of an issue.