Buying my first Ducati

[muskrat]

I'm buying my first Ducati Monster 796 (2013) in about 2 weeks but am wondering if the dealership I am buying from can cut me a better deal. $11,335.33 out the door. What do you think? The breakdown is 9723.61 for the bike, 325 for the freight and 187 for handling. Then everything else is sales tax, doc fees, and licensing fees. What do ya'll think?

I think you got a decent price but as was stated earlier, never buy based on "monthly" payments because the numbers can be massaged a bit to make the payment exactly what you want and the exact price they want to charge.  I'd ask if they can throw in an exhaust for, say, half price    The ABS models are $10,495, add back in the commission of $187 & $325 and you're at $11,007 without tax.  Did you buy an ABS model?  If you didn't I'd say paid a little more than  needed.

[Curmudgeon]

Fairly certain ABS has been standard on NAS 796 since mid-2011.

[muskrat]

Fairly certain ABS has been standard on NAS 796 since mid-2011.

well I learned something today.

OK so I think then it's now slightly too much that you paid Convert123

[Curmudgeon]

MSRP is $10,495. No idea whether that's supposed to include freight and prep or not, but since it's not a car, there is no Monroney label. Maybe not.

In 2011 796's were rather tight and supply may still be somewhat limited as that's a popular displacement in the EC for licensing and insurance reasons. Had my dealer not been highly favored by DNA, I might not have gotten mine at all in July which is late in the selling season and Ducati is on holiday for most of August.

The OP is getting a larger break than I did, and I was in the high-line car biz for 40 years.  These bikes are allocated and no doubt the dealers have to submit their financial statement to DNA, so unless they get wacky with a trade-in..., they could see their allocation cut back if they give anything away. If I had to guess, the OP is getting ~ half the dealer margin.

Business is a two-way street. Deals have to make sense for both parties. I paid MSRP and no other charges, including ALL labor for swapping out my shock, Ohlins set-up, installing a body kit, 14T, and a Rizoma bar which had to be drilled. Got ~ 10% off all the goodies. Figured that was fair as the work was done to perfection.

As usual, just my $0.02...

[Convert123]

MSRP is $10,495. No idea whether that's supposed to include freight and prep or not, but since it's not a car, there is no Monroney label. Maybe not.

In 2011 796's were rather tight and supply may still be somewhat limited as that's a popular displacement in the EC for licensing and insurance reasons. Had my dealer not been highly favored by DNA, I might not have gotten mine at all in July which is late in the selling season and Ducati is on holiday for most of August.

The OP is getting a larger break than I did, and I was in the high-line car biz for 40 years.  These bikes are allocated and no doubt the dealers have to submit their financial statement to DNA, so unless they get wacky with a trade-in..., they could see their allocation cut back if they give anything away. If I had to guess, the OP is getting ~ half the dealer margin.

Business is a two-way street. Deals have to make sense for both parties. I paid MSRP and no other charges, including ALL labor for swapping out my shock, Ohlins set-up, installing a body kit, 14T, and a Rizoma bar which had to be drilled. Got ~ 10% off all the goodies. Figured that was fair as the work was done to perfection.

As usual, just my $0.02...

I get ten percent off all parts/gear without the bike due to their military discount. I talked to them and they don't come down on labor so i would probably have my labor done at another shop. I'm going to see if they will come down more on gear so it won't hurt so bad on extra/comfort needed gear. Good to know I'm getting a decent deal though

[Convert123]

The general manager went back over the numbers and got me a bit more off the bike (-$200) then said since I'm military he will give me 15%off gear anytime I want it.

[Curmudgeon]

The general manager went back over the numbers and got me a bit more off the bike (-$200) then said since I'm military he will give me 15%off gear anytime I want it.

You sound as if you have a good attitude, so I'd do that for you too! 

[Skybarney]

When I bought my 1100 I bellied up and had already committed to the purchase when I asked the dealer for a discount of some kind just so I would feel extra happy about the purchase.  He dropped $1000.00 and gave me 10% of  any accessories I bought that day.  Funny thing is he already had the sale and the tiny amount of it I financed had already been approved and the bike pushed in the back for final prep.

$200.00 off?  I think you could have gotten more but IMO it is never worth being pushy with your dealer.

[Curmudgeon]

What's your baseline? He's getting ~ $1,000 off MSRP and a 796 has less margin than an EVO.

[Triple J]

What's your baseline? He's getting ~ $1,000 off MSRP and a 796 has less margin than an EVO.

+1

[Skybarney]

I ended up paying a grand total of $14,000 out the door all taxes, licenses and fees.  They reduced the bike itself to $12,780. 

[Convert123]

My grand total was barely over 11k for a 2013 796 with abs... I got the bike itself down to 9.5k so I think I got a decent deal with it because the msrp is 10.5k. I'm happy with the bike over all. I put 25 miles on it today just getting a feel for it and I'm loving it.

[Curmudgeon]

My grand total was barely over 11k for a 2013 796 with abs... I got the bike itself down to 9.5k so I think I got a decent deal with it because the msrp is 10.5k. I'm happy with the bike over all. I put 25 miles on it today just getting a feel for it and I'm loving it.

 

Great! They run like shit when they are new. Keep the revs over 4K when possible but follow the break-in rev limits mostly. It'll run a LOT better when it has 1,200 - 1,500 miles and some of the fueling quirks disappear.

Keep us posted!

PS Consider a 14T front sprocket at the first service if you want a bit more pep and you find the gearing tall. That's because it IS... 

[Convert123]

Great! They run like shit when they are new. Keep the revs over 4K when possible but follow the break-in rev limits mostly. It'll run a LOT better when it has 1,200 - 1,500 miles and some of the fueling quirks disappear.

Keep us posted!

PS Consider a 14T front sprocket at the first service if you want a bit more pep and you find the gearing tall. That's because it IS... 

You're pretty much right on the gearing being very tall. It's not easy to keep the revs that high. In first gear I get up to 35 before I hit that point. The dealer said to keep the revs between 3k and 5k. I've been trying but I find myself slightly speeding so I have just been feathering the clutch all day. Put 60 miles on it in misty/sprinkling weather. If it handles this well with it being new and in the wet weather I can't wait to see what it will do dry. When I clean it up from the dirt I got on it today I will take a picture for y'all.

[Curmudgeon]

Change the front sprocket at the 600 mile service and thank me later. With the way it's geared now, you won't get it into 6th below 80 MPH. We don't have an Autostrada.

Yes, the Diablo Rossos are quite good, as is the chassis. Think about the cheap Ohlins though if you don't feel the rear is doing much when you can ride in the dry.