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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2014, 11:41:21 AM »

IIRC, they offered bikes for sale a while ago.

Oddly enough, nobody stepped up.  Tongue
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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2014, 11:50:49 AM »

If you read the above article, it states that all manufacturers were given the chance to help improve the MM ECU. Both Honda and Yamaha declined. Honda is now butt hurt because they did not see this move coming? It's not that Ducati made a shady deal with MM. In the end, HRC does provide a ton to MotoGP, more than any other manufacturer. Dorna can't afford for them to pull out like they did in F1.
While I agree it would be detrimental to GP for Honda to pull out, I also don't think Dorna can afford to have it appear that Honda is calling the shots...

and it does.
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2014, 04:19:43 PM »

Good synopsis of the whole situation:

http://motomatters.com/opinion/2014/03/10/the_factory_2_farce_how_poor_communicati.html

Either way, I'm more excited about this year than last year and that's a good thing in my book.
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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2014, 07:01:21 PM »

all this drama makes me want moto3 all the more.
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2014, 07:33:22 PM »

I'd love to see one season's racing with "no rules", other than those necessary for safety…. Evil
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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2014, 08:44:13 PM »

I'd love to see one season's racing with "no rules", other than those necessary for safety…. Evil

Honda would win by smashing the rest of the competition with their wallet... not too far from what is happening now really but more overt.

That being said, I would dearly love to see what they would come up with in order to guarantee success.
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« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2014, 05:01:54 AM »

all this drama makes me want moto3 all the more.
psssssst.....let me let you in on the winner there.....KTM !!!
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« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2014, 07:14:56 AM »

http://m.motomatters.com/news/2014/03/18/factory_2_rules_adopted_for_2014_spec_so.html

Back to two classes but everything works like the factory/factory2 plan.  Full spec ecu's by 2016 though
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« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2014, 10:33:04 AM »

Either Dorna called HRC's bluff or they had to give up something huge later down the line to get HRC to agree to the spec ECU for 2016. Did HRC see the writing on the wall?
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2014, 10:34:41 AM »

More importantly, does this mean that now WSBK will become the test bed for manufacturers to develop their electrons?
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2014, 10:47:22 AM »

More importantly, does this mean that now WSBK will become the test bed for manufacturers to develop their electrons?
I don't see that happening as Dorna has already said they want to implement cost cutting, and a downgrading of technical specs inSBK.
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2014, 11:05:18 AM »

Like the article said, the manufacturers will not develop anything out of the ordinary. So where will we see them actually developing electronics? Maybe it's time for a new race series in the US with relaxed rules.
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2014, 12:55:40 PM »

Hard tellin'. Maybe they won't.

The manufacturers...Honda in particular...have said they use racing to trickle advances to road bikes.

What's left...auto pilot...accujacks?
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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2014, 01:24:37 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Honda uses the least amount of electronics on their road bikes.
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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2014, 01:32:19 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Honda uses the least amount of electronics on their road bikes.
Really don't know.

I don't scour the rags trying to keep tabs on what they do.

I hope Dorna did call Honda's bluff and didn't concede anything.
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