Road Rage on Mandeville Canyon...

[gatuso]

Hey, I have a novel idea: everybody relax and leave everybody else alone 

-R.

+1 

[hbliam]

Hey, I have a novel idea: everybody relax and leave everybody else alone 

-R.

+1 

+1.

You also never know who you are dealing with.

[sbrguy]

The Dr. pulled a stunt and it backfired.  Don't any of you try and tell me you've never stopped short on another car to scare them and "teach them a lesson."  Equating that move to wanting or planning to kill someone is a stretch.  Reckless yes, felony assault nah.  Besides how does a bike going 30-35mph not see and either a. stop or b. avoid a "4000 pound object" unless they were riding in an unsafe manner and/or pattern and couldn't do so without getting hit by another rider as well?

The whole lot of them - riders and Doctor - are morons and defending either is equally moronic.   

And if I read one more whiney ass they're entitled BS post i'm going to vomit.  These guys are squids with pedals and spandex.  We have them here too.  They ride in groups with no regard for anyone around them or their own safety.  While that's all well and good when you get away with it, we all learned on the playground that the attitude of "I'm going to do this because no one would dare hit me" is a painful one to have once someone does hit us. 

Like with most Squids some lessons need to be learned the hard way.  Here's a surprise for all you pedal pushers = they're all out to kill you, ride like it and lose the attitude.

seems like cowboy is aadmitting to "trying to teach someone a lesson by stopping short in a car" interesting to know. how can someone say "i didn't mean to kill the person, i was only driving a 4000lb car stopping short and he was on a 15 lb bike i thought that stopping short at 30mph so that the person slams into my car would only just turn him into a prapalegic or put him in a vegative state but not kill him, its not like i was trying to kill the person by you know shooting them, because you can't purposefully kill someone with a car right?"

see this is why people need to start carrying handguns all the time, so that people will be more courteous to other people no matter what...

this situation could have been avoided if everyone had their own handgun (seems like the supreme court agrees with me).

because nobody can drive/run/cycle faster than a speeding bullet only superman can do that.

you are on a bicycle? no problem you can still get shot through the spandex so be polite,
you are in a car? no problem, bullets easily go through glass  so be more polite,
you are walking down the street? no problem, people will be polite because you can take them out if you want.

handguns the answer to the worlds problems... 

then no more problems of entitelement, because drivers and cyclists would have to be worried about the other equally killing each from a distance where the car makes no difference.

"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal"

for those that may not have noticed, this posting is satire.

[darylbowden]

seems like cowboy is aadmitting to "trying to teach someone a lesson by stopping short in a car" interesting to know. how can someone say "i didn't mean to kill the person, i was only driving a 4000lb car stopping short and he was on a 15 lb bike i thought that stopping short at 30mph so that the person slams into my car would only just turn him into a prapalegic or put him in a vegative state but not kill him, its not like i was trying to kill the person by you know shooting them, because you can't purposefully kill someone with a car right?"

see this is why people need to start carrying handguns all the time, so that people will be more courteous to other people no matter what...

this situation could have been avoided if everyone had their own handgun (seems like the supreme court agrees with me).

because nobody can drive/run/cycle faster than a speeding bullet only superman can do that.

you are on a bicycle? no problem you can still get shot through the spandex so be polite,
you are in a car? no problem, bullets easily go through glass  so be more polite,
you are walking down the street? no problem, people will be polite because you can take them out if you want.

handguns the answer to the worlds problems... 

then no more problems of entitelement, because drivers and cyclists would have to be worried about the other equally killing each from a distance where the car makes no difference.

"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal"

for those that may not have noticed, this posting is satire.

You should work for the New Yorker.

[COWBOY]

seems like cowboy is aadmitting to "trying to teach someone a lesson by stopping short in a car" interesting to know. how can someone say "i didn't mean to kill the person, i was only driving a 4000lb car stopping short and he was on a 15 lb bike i thought that stopping short at 30mph so that the person slams into my car would only just turn him into a prapalegic or put him in a vegative state but not kill him, its not like i was trying to kill the person by you know shooting them, because you can't purposefully kill someone with a car right?"

see this is why people need to start carrying handguns all the time, so that people will be more courteous to other people no matter what...

this situation could have been avoided if everyone had their own handgun (seems like the supreme court agrees with me).

because nobody can drive/run/cycle faster than a speeding bullet only superman can do that.

you are on a bicycle? no problem you can still get shot through the spandex so be polite,
you are in a car? no problem, bullets easily go through glass  so be more polite,
you are walking down the street? no problem, people will be polite because you can take them out if you want.

handguns the answer to the worlds problems... 

then no more problems of entitelement, because drivers and cyclists would have to be worried about the other equally killing each from a distance where the car makes no difference.

"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal"

for those that may not have noticed, this posting is satire.

LOL.  It was all muddy for me but you're great satirical wit cleared it all up.  I'll be heading to the Trekkie store for some spandex and a $5000 bike straight away so I can achieve greater clarity and consciousness like you.   

Stopping short was bad word choice on my part since we're being so specific.  Stopping short is a technique used by insurance scammers and is used to initiate a collusion.  Tapping the brakes is the technique I was referring to often used by drivers being tailgated.  It's intent is to cause a momentary sphincter clutch in the tailgating party but not meant to involve contact between the vehicles.  As far as the Doc's intent goes that would depend on whether he tapped the brakes or stopped short which is probably what the DA and PoPo are trying to determine at the accident site.

[lucazuma]

you are on a bicycle? no problem you can still get shot through the spandex so be polite,
you are in a car? no problem, bullets easily go through glass  so be more polite,
you are walking down the street? no problem, people will be polite because you can take them out if you want.

....yeah, yeah but you are forgrtting that its not easy to carry a handgun in your spandex...ask me how i know

[gm2]

plenty of room?

[Bad Dog]

plenty of room?

Maybe it's always there.....and we never really knew !?

[Gus Duc]

....yeah, yeah but you are forgrtting that its not easy to carry a handgun in your spandex...ask me how i know

Now I know why the alarm went off when we walked into Ross

[Kaveh]

I thought stopping short was George Costanza's father move, later copied by Kramer

[sbrguy]

LOL.  It was all muddy for me but you're great satirical wit cleared it all up.  I'll be heading to the Trekkie store for some spandex and a $5000 bike straight away so I can achieve greater clarity and consciousness like you.   

Stopping short was bad word choice on my part since we're being so specific.  Stopping short is a technique used by insurance scammers and is used to initiate a collusion.  Tapping the brakes is the technique I was referring to often used by drivers being tailgated.  It's intent is to cause a momentary sphincter clutch in the tailgating party but not meant to involve contact between the vehicles.  As far as the Doc's intent goes that would depend on whether he tapped the brakes or stopped short which is probably what the DA and PoPo are trying to determine at the accident site.

no problem, all in good humor. 

i do like the bacon icon though that was a good one by the mods to put on.

i know exactly what you were talking about with the slight slowing down and such.. only problem with that is like you said someone could "mean to only do that" but it totally backfires and ends up 10 times worse.. if so i still think you should be b&tch slapped majorly by the law as it was stupid to do it in the first place, sort of like playing with a gun and pointing it at someone only "meaning to scare them" and it goes off and shoots them in the head... sorry but no matter how much of an "accident'" something might be i want the person "b%tch slapped" by the law if it was something really stupid.

i like the new yorker comment (very good in light of the recent cover), how did you pick up that i was from that area?  (joking, well sorta)

well you can carry the gun in spandex much like when you see some security guard in really bad fitting suits with their guns "hidden in a shoulder holster" and you see a huge outline of a gun through the jacke.. oh yeah that is really "concealed"..

funny comments by all.  hey you have to have a bit of humor about even bad situations..

[COWBOY]

i know exactly what you were talking about with the slight slowing down and such.. only problem with that is like you said someone could "mean to only do that" but it totally backfires and ends up 10 times worse.. if so i still think you should be b&tch slapped majorly by the law as it was stupid to do it in the first place, sort of like playing with a gun and pointing it at someone only "meaning to scare them" and it goes off and shoots them in the head... sorry but no matter how much of an "accident'" something might be i want the person "b%tch slapped" by the law if it was something really stupid.

I never said he shouldn't own up for the accident or isn't responsible - he is.  I argued he shouldn't go down on more serious charges nor should anyone assume he was trying to kill someone without more facts -- Hell if the intent was to seriously harm he could have forced them off the cliff directly and left no witnesses   

Pointing a gun at someone and brake checking is quite a stretch though so you lose me there.  But following your line of thought if someone was pointing a gun in my face I sure as hell wouldn't tell them off and flip them the bird like those 2 did.

It's all good and let me apologize for even trespassing in your local forum.  One of the dangers I guess of surfing the site using the Unread button.

[lucazuma]

It's all good and let me apologize for even trespassing in your local forum.  One of the dangers I guess of surfing the site using the Unread button.

...i dont think any comments are to be considered unwelcomed no mater what the opinion they express, as long as they are civilized and respectfull of others opinions...

keep it comin

[erkishhorde]

The doc is having his trial this morning at 8:30.

[zenjim]

Please post up what punishment they dole out for the doc.

As a bicyclist who has been hit by 3 cars and a bus (he actually tried to make a getaway), I'm curious to see what happens.