Dall'Igna's new Duc

[silas]

What do y'all think Ducati can do to reduce the engine length? 
That seems to be the main problem. (that and its height)
Too much weight up front...the front pushes...

Pneumatic valves?

[duccarlos]

I wouldn't put it past the walking eyebrow.

[derby]

What do y'all think Ducati can do to reduce the engine length? 
That seems to be the main problem. (that and its height)
Too much weight up front...the front pushes...

Pneumatic valves?

I wouldn't put it past the walking eyebrow.

they'd have to quit calling calling it the desmosedici.

[Speeddog]

More info on what has been changed since Dall'Igna got his hands on it:

http://tinyurl.com/qfxhfq3

70mm - 

[OT]

Page no longer available?

It'd be cheaper to lure Stoner out of retirement and let him slam the bike back and forth into turns.

[koko64]

That's a very comprehensive list of changes required.  Good link.
No wonder riders and teams got lost.

Page no longer available?

It'd be cheaper to lure Stoner out of retirement and let him slam the bike back and forth into turns.

The page did drop out, shame.
Yeah, understeer? No worries kick the back out.

[Speeddog]

Motosprint broke the link and the article is gone, as far as I can tell. 

I've got a copy of it.
I'm checking on whether I can post it here without getting us in trouble.

[Speeddog]

New link to the article:

http://www.riderbike.it/forum/showthread.php?tid=1770

[El-Twin]

New link to the article:

http://www.riderbike.it/forum/showthread.php?tid=1770

Mama Mia, that's hard to read!

[bdfinally]

GP15 not ready for Sepang 1 test


http://motomatters.com/news/2015/01/14/ducati_s_desmosedici_gp15_officially_del.html

[duccarlos]

GP15 not ready for Sepang 1 test


http://motomatters.com/news/2015/01/14/ducati_s_desmosedici_gp15_officially_del.html

I think Ducati is really looking forward to Michelin. They never really adapted to the Stones and they know that HRC and Yamaha will at least start at the same point. They will eventually get faster quicker, but at least at the very start they will be on a leveled playing field.

[MadDuck]

I think Ducati is really looking forward to Michelin. They never really adapted to the Stones and they know that HRC and Yamaha will at least start at the same point. They will eventually get faster quicker, but at least at the very start they will be on a leveled playing field.

Wasn't it Rossi on the Yamaha/Michelin set up that was crying for the Bridgestones that Stoner was using on the Ducati? But that was back before spec tires too.

[Triple J]

Wasn't it Rossi on the Yamaha/Michelin set up that was crying for the Bridgestones that Stoner was using on the Ducati? But that was back before spec tires too.

Yes, but like you said, it was before spec. tires. The B'stone was a different animal back then, and Ducati had the majority of the input into it's development, as hardly anyone else used them...and they were the only factory team on them. When it became the spec. tire, Honda and Yamaha got the majority of the input and Ducati was left out in the cold. At the time both Yamaha and Honda used aluminum twin spar frames, while Ducati was trying the carbon fiber frameless concept. No surprise that a tire developed for an aluminum twin spar frame didn't work as well for the CF concept.

[duccarlos]

I'm not sure that the CF frame came at the time that the spec tire was developed. I believe that came a year later, but Ducati was still on trellis IIRC. Your point is valid, HRC and Yamaha had the bulk of the input.

[Triple J]

The Bridgestones became spec in 2009, the same year that Ducati introduced the CF monocoque frame. 2007 was when Stoner won the championship and 2008 was the limbo year (Duc has steel trellis for both of those).

Interestingly, in his autobiography Stoner said he thought the 2009 bike was the best one he had, they just needed to devote the proper resources to develop it, which they didn't.