Is the S4RS the Greatest Monster Ever Built?

Started by The ModFather, July 24, 2014, 12:01:47 PM

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the_Journeyman

If I had the means, I would most certainly have an S4RS in the garage.  That or a blue and white S4R at the very least!

JM
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DesmoDiva

If we were ever to part with our STs, they would be replaced by S4RSs.

Not much about that bike not to like, except the tank.  :P

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'02 ST4s Yellow

thorn14

M620 turned M800 but then back to M620 after the M800 died at 110k, and now to Multi 1000.

The ModFather

Yeah I guess the expanding plastic tank is the one thing keeping this bike from Monster perfection. I know there was a replacement plan but not sure how easy it was. Is it offeted for 2nd owners? Or even still offered at all? Anyone know the straight dope here?
2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

The Bearded Duc

Quote from: Duck Off on July 25, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
Yeah I guess the expanding plastic tank is the one thing keeping this bike from Monster perfection. I know there was a replacement plan but not sure how easy it was. Is it offeted for 2nd owners? Or even still offered at all? Anyone know the straight dope here?

Replacements aren't offered any more.
2001 M750 - Sold
2006 S2R 800 - She's just darling

muskrat

Quote from: The Bearded Duc on July 25, 2014, 12:57:59 PM
Replacements aren't offered any more.
so true and sad too.  wait, I have a metal tank  :P
Can we thin the gene pool? 

2015 MTS 1200
09 Electra Glide

Uncle Mofo

I remember when the S4Rs came out. Everyone was pregnant doging about the extra pumpling the radiator. Calling it ugly and not a true monster (This were the "purist" talking) Well I upgraded from a 2005 S2R  to the 2007 S4Rs 7 years ago and never looked back.

There 's my £ 2. ;)


                                   2007 red S4Rs

thought

Easy choice, S4RS all the way if it's half the price.  It's looks will never get old.
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

Doe-Foe

and I just got home an hour ago from leaving my 08 S4rs at a dealership on consignment.  [bang]

Moronic

#24
Quote from: Duck Off on July 24, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
Seems mighty big praise gets laid at the wheels of the S4RS. I myself being a 620 Dark owner am unbiased but being in the market for a new big boy Monster there's two bikes that meet my criteria (i.e. More Power, SS-SwingArm, Ohlins, Lots O Style) the S4RS and the new 1200s. The thing is ...I can get an S4RS for about half of what a 1200S will cost me plus I can get a DRY CLUTCH!!  [drool] which for some reason looks and sounds incredibly cool. On the other hand a new bike is ... a BRAND NEW BIKE!!  ;D plus all the latest gadgetry, better brakes, even more power and possibly the most comfortable Monster ever made. What are the thoughts on the S4RS here? I see most are fitted with Steering Damper... why? Are they prone to tankslappers? Just wonderin...


Well this is a subject close to my heart.  ;D I love my S4Rs and can't imagine releasing it. I've not ridden the 1200 and so can't make a first-hand comparison. I have ridden the Multi whose motor the 1200 has adapted.

So this is part speculation but I think if you were to ride the two you'd be pretty shocked at the differences. The S4Rs is a parts-bin hot-rod that just happens to work really well in its own weird way. The 1200 is a fresh design. It's intended to be much more versatile than the S4Rs.

The S4Rs will be smaller and shorter and lighter and you'll lean forward more onto the 'bars. Its chassis transmits beautifully the feel of that wonderfully smooth, short-stroke Testastretta 998 engine. The engine is very cammy - a bit soft in the 3.5-5.5K range then picking up sharply around 6.5 and really hauling from 7500 to 10K or more. In theory it is the opposite of what you want from a big street twin but in practice it is so entertaining. Even in the soft bit there is a fair bit of go for the street.

The 1200 will likely feel a lot stiffer in the chassis, which could be good for steering precision at high speeds. Whether you get that same feel for the engine I don't know but with the seat essentially bolted to the rear cylinder you're bound to feel something. The motor will offer about the same power up top as a DP-kitted S4Rs but there will be a lot more grunt off the bottom and it won't have that cammy feel. You will be able to carry a passenger much more comfortably and it will be much easier to strap luggage on. The 1200 should also have a much better fuel range.

I rode another S4Rs recently and was a bit shocked to notice how much better I liked mine with the reworked shock and slightly taller, much flatter seat. I think one reason why the S4Rs works so well is that you get that hot-rod motor in a package that is really pleasant to ride at sane street speeds.

Edit: Oh, and a steering damper won't be necessary if you use the proper Ohlins fluid in the front fork.

Curmudgeon

Thanks for that really thoughtful and interesting write -up!
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

The ModFather

Yeah thanks. That was a great assesment. Great feedback!
2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

Uncle Mofo

#27
Yeah I would have to agree. Mine is set up for my weight, front and back. (Done by Indy Ducati Matt Carr) New springs, internals and different oil. The rear was raised a bit and the front lowered. I have a steering dampener on it and I never noticed it working?? But I do like the bling factor.  Some after marked cool bits, the usual stuff  Pazzo levers, CRG mirror, Sargent seat, lots of black powder coating and some gold bits.   Everywhere I take it someone wants to buy it  [Dolph]  
I considered the 1200 till I saw in the person and sat on it. I refused to test ride it. I'm sure I would love the extra power but it was too low for me and I'm not completely sold on the new look.  
 I'm still in love with the S4Rs and I will keep it forever. Eventually adding a Diavel or Multistrada to the garage.  

PS I do like the gas tank on the new monster 1200, now can we slap that on the S4Rs?


                                   2007 red S4Rs

grunte


red baron

Quote from: Uncle Mofo on July 27, 2014, 11:49:17 AM


PS I do like the gas tank on the new monster 1200, now can we slap that on the S4Rs?

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