swap options for s2r monster

Started by Ohm3d, September 23, 2014, 08:18:11 AM

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Ohm3d

The heads through ca-cycleworks are MBP heads. I contacted him and it was pretty much the same price as just buyingthe ones from chris.

I am not after top shelf build by any means. But even if i had to spend $4500 on the motor, i think its too much. So for an example, a ds1000 motor at $1600, $400 for shipping, maybe need a clutch or basket $$$, may need valves done and belts $$$$, may need guides $$$, gotta customize stuff to make it work, need an ecu reflash $400, re tune on the dyno.  If i could just plop on another head and be done, that'd be awesome. Cant find much on head differences and interchangability

thorn14

I may be wrong, but I think 620, 750ie, and 800 heads (small 2V) are interchangable but valve size and cams are slightly different between them.

M620 turned M800 but then back to M620 after the M800 died at 110k, and now to Multi 1000.

Speeddog

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krista

Quote from: hackers2r on September 23, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
As you're in Canada, have you tried MBPducati.ca? Martin knows his stuff but I don't know what his rate is.  May be worth giving him a call.

Yeah, that webpage was talking about Guy's work.

Mostly when folks call me about it, I try to steer them towards a 1000 motor or just buying a faster bike.

I happen to have on the shelf a set of red headed S2R 800 heads that I was intending to put on my bike. 900SS carby cams and ready to install. Done by Guy. Then I kinda don't ride as much as I used to and not sure I want to take apart my S2R. I like it so much the way it is.

:) Chris
Krista Kelley ... autist formerly known as chris
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Ohm3d

I ended up pulling the heads cleaned, lapped, and valve adjusted. while the heads were off, I removed the base gaskets to increase the compression. I also ditched the velocity stacks and pod filters for  a modded airbox. so with all that done, it will be like a new bike again. I tried and tired to find a reasonable price on a DS 1000 motor and found nothing. I had also looked into a DS 1100 motor. apparently they fit, you just need to modify the stock harness, change the coils to dual spark and reprogram the ecu accordingly. 1100 DS motors seem equally hard to come by :( 

Raux

Ask stopintime about his 800.

Ohm3d

It seems ridiculous that a 2v 1000 or 1100 cost around $3000 used when you can get a testastretta moto pretty complete for $1000 ish

Dochunt

Aprilia Caponord 1200 2015
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Ohm3d

Since my last post I bought an M1000s full bike, for $4500 (Cad) probably going to swap in the motor to the s2r800 and the 800 back into the other frame. and sell it for what ever I can get.

Speeddog

Swap the steel tank and M1000 throttle bodies too.
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stopintime

Quote from: Speeddog on August 19, 2015, 12:17:20 PM
Swap the steel tank and M1000 throttle bodies too.

Why?

800 throttle bodies fit 1000 ?
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Dirty Duc

That way the map is standard. I think the 1000 tbs have an idle air control valve.

Speeddog

M1000 TB's have the fuel pressure regulator onboard, and as such, will work with the steel tank.

M1000 TB's do not have an idle air valve.

There have been few changes to the 2V throttle bodies, AFAIK they'll fit all models of the same year, likely a lot more.
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Dirty Duc

Huh.  Must be a difference in the year or something.  I've got a set of DS TB's that memory tells me have the IAC (a cursory search of the garage doesn't find them).  Different from the 800, but they are physically interchangeable.

Ohm3d

I think the s2r800 has 44mm throttle bodies and the m1000 has 38mm. dunno if its really worth swapping em. I was probably just essentially going to do a frame swap and leave all the additional wiring and things with their proper motor.


The s2r has magneti marelli gauge, m1000 doesn't say that so maybe Siemens?