How Much Wear is Acceptable on the M900 Clutch Housing / Basket?

Started by MonsterMadMarty, November 18, 2014, 11:03:01 PM

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MonsterMadMarty

How much wear is acceptable on the clutch housing? What difference does the wear make to the clutch performance?


I've photographed the worst of the wear:
RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

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Speeddog

Rooted.
Replace.
But that's *me* spending *your* money.

The wear makes it noisy and grabby/draggy.

You can spend the time to file or grind them flat again.

And then it'll just be noisy.
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MonsterHPD

Quote from: Speeddog on November 18, 2014, 11:17:46 PM
Rooted.
Replace.
But that's *me* spending *your* money.

The wear makes it noisy and grabby/draggy.

You can spend the time to file or grind them flat again.

And then it'll just be noisy.

I've dome that several times to my STM slipper clutch basket. It still works, but is now rated the noicest clutch anyone ever heard  [roll]
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MonsterMadMarty

Quote from: Speeddog on November 18, 2014, 11:17:46 PM

But that's *me* spending *your* money.


That's fine Speeddog.

The only new ones I can find on Fleabay state 1998+ Model, did they change? I need one for a 93 model!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=301363945031&globalID=EBAY-AU

RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!

koko64

 Look fine. The generic Ducati dry clutch. Get some alloy plates to suit. They new?
2015 Scrambler 800

MonsterMadMarty

Quote from: koko64 on November 19, 2014, 12:01:56 AM

Look fine. The generic Ducati dry clutch. Get some alloy plates to suit. They new?



I've got half a dozen Barnett complete clutch kits sat on the shelf.  I might order two housings as the next project is a full custom job on my 95 M900 and it's clutch is as grabby as all hell right now!

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RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

MonsterMadMarty

Quote from: koko64 on November 19, 2014, 12:43:59 AM

What do the drum/hubs look like?


Ha ha.... I can see where you're going with this.... I thought about a complete slipper clutch set up but the 93 I'm trying to keep as original as possible. I have three hubs to choose from all look good.
RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

WTSDS

My basket looks like yours, and the drum is also worn. My clutch was slipping, grabbing and growling. I severely cleaned up the clutch friction surfaces with 3M scouring pads, then filed the badly hooked tangs on the plates so they were flattish, and my clutch worked perfect. That was 25,000 kms ago. If it starts to play up again I'll file down the tangs again.
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ducpainter

Quote from: WTSDS on November 19, 2014, 03:10:30 AM
My basket looks like yours, and the drum is also worn. My clutch was slipping, grabbing and growling. I severely cleaned up the clutch friction surfaces with 3M scouring pads, then filed the badly hooked tangs on the plates so they were flattish, and my clutch worked perfect. That was 25,000 kms ago. If it starts to play up again I'll file down the tangs again.
This is what I do. I also added a dished plate facing in the opposite direction from the factory supplied one. That pretty much stops the groaning for good.

I don't bother dressing up the basket.

It is noisy.
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WTSDS

DucPainter >>It is noisy.

Yeah, but only when idling..........

Those OEM clutch plates are as tough as goats knees.

When I got my very tired Monsta some 8 years ago I thought the clutch plates were worn out because the friction bits were so thin.

So I bought a set from a wreckers/breakers. I subsequently measured the stack on the old and the "new" ones I'd bought - they were both within specs.

I expect I'll probably never need the "new" ones.



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ducpainter

Quote from: WTSDS on November 19, 2014, 05:23:58 AM
DucPainter >>It is noisy.

Yeah, but only when idling..........

Those OEM clutch plates are as tough as goats knees.

When I got my very tired Monsta some 8 years ago I thought the clutch plates were worn out because the friction bits were so thin.

So I bought a set from a wreckers/breakers. I subsequently measured the stack on the old and the "new" ones I'd bought - they were both within specs.

I expect I'll probably never need the "new" ones.




Agreed...on the road there is no difference.

Most of my riding sees very little clutch usage anyway. There isn't much traffic or reason to stop.

If I ever replace mine it will be with OEM.

They really are rugged.
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Duck-Stew

I replaced my friends worn clutch on his '97 M900 (all plates were blue, it was notchy and would occassionally slip) with an entire unit from a '10 1198 I sourced off of Ebay.  Aluminum basket with aluminum plates.  All's well now...  and quiet too!
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