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putting my bike together...please help me out along the way..

Started by Rudemouthsky, March 16, 2015, 03:27:56 AM

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Rudemouthsky

#90
April 30, 2015, 05:33:08 PM
Did something dumb.

Poured like a shot glass sized amount of gas in the carbs bc I was eager to her her run. And she fired up alright...and sounded glorious for about 2 seconds. Noticed I was leaking oil at all 4 oil cooler connection points so I tightened everything up, topped off the oil, tried again (bc I'm stupid and impatient like that) and nothing. Thought maybe I flooded it so I took the plugs out to check, thought I might have smelled gas on em, swapped em out...tried again with starter fluid still no go. Now I have no spark on either cylinder. What the heck did I do?
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ducpainter

#91
April 30, 2015, 05:56:58 PM
Are you running stock ignitors or an Ignitek?
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Rudemouthsky

#92
April 30, 2015, 06:07:19 PM Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 06:10:43 PM by Rudemouthsky
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 05:56:58 PM
Are you running stock ignitors or an Ignitek?

Ignitek...

Also...why can't I find step by step instructions for wiring up the coils and ignitors anywhere in my manuals? I have both a Haynes and LT Synders manual. Can't seem to find what I'm looking for in either.

One of my problems is I'm just so damn burned out...I wanna ride already. My mind is fried to the point I'm having difficulty with the simplest of tasks.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

koko64

#93
April 30, 2015, 06:09:23 PM

What plugs you using RM?
Have you mapped it? Better check the connectors. Did it sound like it was running correctly timing wise (not cross wired)?
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Rudemouthsky

#94
April 30, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
Quote from: koko64 on April 30, 2015, 06:09:23 PM
What plugs you using RM?
Have you mapped it? Better check the connectors. Did it sound like it was running correctly timing wise (not cross wired)?

Yes...but it really didn't run long enough to be sure. I remember the last time I crossed the wires on the Ignitech and it wasn't immediately obvious. I only had the bike "running" for a second maybe less...my "2 seconds" was def generous.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

#95
April 30, 2015, 06:17:08 PM
I have 0 experience with the Ignitek...

talk to 'Tiz.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


koko64

#96
April 30, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
Could be. Not hard to  cross them. Have the paint pen ready to match the connectors if you try the other way and it runs correctly. You got a remote tank like a Motion Pro "drip bottle"? Worth having.

Remember, Ignitechs don't like non R plugs.

Tiz is the local Ignitech guy ay?
2015 Scrambler 800

Rudemouthsky

#97
April 30, 2015, 06:27:52 PM
For practical purposes the Ignitech is no different than the stock ignitors. I'm using R plugs for sure. Lets pretend I'm running stock ignitors for now?
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

#98
April 30, 2015, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Rudemouthsky on April 30, 2015, 06:27:52 PM
For practical purposes the Ignitech is no different than the stock ignitors. I'm using R plugs for sure. Lets pretend I'm running stock ignitors for now?
Stock ignitors are very sensitive to grounding.

If they work...and then stop...it's never good.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


koko64

#99
April 30, 2015, 06:31:20 PM
I think the Ignitech are more robust.
Cross wired? Need more fuel? Nothing at the plugs when out and grounded?

I'll be back in a couple of hours and will check in.
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Rudemouthsky

#100
April 30, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 06:29:47 PM
Stock ignitors are very sensitive to grounding.

If they work...and then stop...it's never good.

So...if I cranked the bike without the system properly grounded...I could kill the ignitors?  :o
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

#101
April 30, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: Rudemouthsky on April 30, 2015, 06:35:35 PM
So...if I cranked the bike without the system properly grounded...I could kill the ignitors?  :o
Maybe...

I have a story.

Many ignitors were harmed.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Rudemouthsky

#102
April 30, 2015, 07:09:14 PM
This is what I've done as far as grounding the system...

Fat 4ga wire from negative battery post to the hollow bolt into the engine. I even went so far as to scrape away the powder coat on top even tho the bolt sinks deep into the case. The ground strap off the loom is hooked to the negative post. Sufficient?
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

#103
April 30, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
I guess I'd ask how the Ignitek is grounded.

On the older carby bikes there was a ground strap between the frame and the cases, plus the battery grounds and any other grounds that Ducati thought were necessary.

Keep in mind I've already disavowed any specific Ignitek knowledge.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


koko64

#104
April 30, 2015, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 30, 2015, 07:31:57 PM
I guess I'd ask how the Ignitek is grounded.

On the older carby bikes there was a ground strap between the frame and the cases, plus the battery grounds and any other grounds that Ducati thought were necessary.

Keep in mind I've already disavowed any specific Ignitek knowledge.

I'd guess through the two mystery lugs and the loom ground, but that's a guess.
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