2015 Diavel Stealth vs 2008 Sport 1000S

Started by The ModFather, April 09, 2015, 03:25:01 PM

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Howie

You need to make the decision for yourself.  Do take into account the opinions of folk on this board.  Your decision should take into consideration objective points like warranty on your new bike if still in effect, cost of insurance, maintenance so on and so forth.  Objectively I could never own a Sport Classic as I am inseam challenged.  Then there is the subjective part.  Aesthetics, color, cool factor etc.  IMO, a Sport Classic stacks up pretty well there, particularly with wheel, brake, suspension and exhaust upgrades tickle your fancy.

I think the new generation Ducs are great bikes, but I love the basic simplicity of the air cooled Duo Desmo Monsters (Super Sports and Sport Classics too).  Bought an '04 1000s.  Put almost what I paid into shape up and upgrades, therefore I am upside down in equity.  Yep, new this would be the case in advance.  Did I make the right decision?  I think so, maybe not, only the future will tell.

hbliam

It has 17500K miles and that's what a 2006 with 17500 miles is worth. But yeah, I'm sure there are scammers there just as there are everywhere.

Howie


koko64

Go on, have three bikes. ;D As some have said, you could build your own version without the compromises over time as you can afford it. Or save up for one. All three bikes have distinctive styling which obviously captures your imagination. Go for it. [thumbsup]
2015 Scrambler 800

DRKWNG

Quote from: brad black on April 10, 2015, 12:29:03 AM
i've ridden a few diavels, and a lot of sports.  i'd be pissing the diavel off at the first opportunity.

I so wish there was a like button, just for Brad's post. I had someone offer $14k for my Sport1000 a year and a half ago, and I refused.  He still emails me asking if I'm ready to sell it.  Can't really imagine letting that bike go anytime soon, even though I haven't ridden either of the motos in some time.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

eric

As a Sport 1000S owner, I would recommend against it if you like your bikes to be for riding. In just about every practical usage scenario that I can imagine, the Diavel will be the better (if uglier) bike. Not that the  1000S is bad by any measure, but it is limited by its, let's say, peculiarities. And you'll almost certainly lose more money trading in the Diavel than what you'd gain by appreciation in the 1000S at this point (if any), unless you keep the miles low and hold on to it for a long time and things go the right way. As we all know, keeping the miles low = not riding, and not riding = less reason to own a bike.

And even if it does appreciate, that could be a double edged sword. I got mine used in early 2011 with Termis, side panels, Fleda taillight, and free valve adjustment thrown in for under eight grand. This was back when there were still new ones sitting unsold on the floor. I had great fun putting it through the paces and racking on the miles but now, knowing that it would cost a LOT more to replace should something happen to it, the enthusiasm for riding it just isn't the same any more.

But hey, if you've had a chance to ride it a bit and feel in your heart that you really want it, then nothing should stop you. I certainly love mine and would not sell it. Not to say I haven't been tempted before; a dealer offered a substantial markup on the offered trade-in value to offset the $14.5k he was asking for the below, with SIXTY miles on the odo:



In the end, owning a MH900e with 60 miles would probably just mean even less (and more reluctant) riding than owning a 1000S with any number of miles. So I said no.
Los Angeles to the Arctic Ocean, 10,000 mile solo trip on an S2R800:
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The ModFather

I appreciate all the great feedback here. After having sat on a Sport 1000s & considering how limited you are in modifying the ergos due to the  bubble  fairing (raise the clipons? Nope!)  i think the right path for me is to keep the Monster & Diavel & look for a 90s era 900SS SP for $2-$3k to strip down, cafe out & mount a bubble fairing on like the Walt Seigl Leggero bikes. Thats really what I need anyways is a project bike. This way I create my own sport classic & keep the other two loves in my life.
2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

Monstyr

Quote from: The ModFather on April 15, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
I appreciate all the great feedback here. After having sat on a Sport 1000s & considering how limited you are in modifying the ergos due to the  bubble  fairing (raise the clipons? Nope!) 

You can raise the clip ons a little, they have a spacer holding them down from the top yoke, it is also possible to fit the higher ones too but this involves a bit more leftfield thinking to get them to work. I've seen one guy trim his cockpit fairing but this is a step too far for me, repositioning the reservoirs may get you a bit more clearance on higher bars but its all a case of try it and see rather than a bolt on mod you can buy.
Strain on the forearms are helped greatly by installing a bigger clutch slave meaning pull is lightened on already stretched arms.

I've cafe'd my S2R and was in the middle of mods when the Sc range was released, since buying my SC new in 08(at a discount too) I've seen it almost a whisker off doubling in price, I doubt I'll see that happenning again with any other models.
I still like my cafe'd monster but it's not an SC, I'm happy with both but they are very different bike to ride.

I do like Diavels but if I buy another bike I think it'll be a proper vintage one, a Sunbeam S7 or 8, a gentlemans cruiser with none of the ridiculous image attachments of harleys or similar.
The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.

The ModFather

So I went with the Sport Classic 1000S and she's a beauty. At the end of the day I knew if I didnt get the Sport 1KS I'd always regret it. Right now I have all 3 bikes but it's a short lived bliss as I will sadly have to part with the Diavel. I only feel bad about it when I ride the Diavel cause she's such a great bike but at the end of the day it doesnt excite me like the Monster and the Sport 1KS. I see it as very possible that I could buy a Diavel again in the future and although I want to keep all three I cant have 3 bikes and a wife (at least not this wife) plus these 3 kids will probably be wanting to go to college and I need to prepare for that financial deluge. Oh well.. maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket today. As for the Sport 1000S ergos I had no problem on a 3.5 hour ride home with the bike so I'm not in the least bit worried. I guess the low cilp-ons on the Monster all these years did prepare me. Plus the Sport 1KS clip-ons already had the spacer removed and had been raised to right under the top triple. Super fun ride. The Termis sound great but not as great as the Boom Tubes on the Monster. I'm trying now to figure out of the baffles have or havent been removed but that's a tale for another forum. Oh and here she is ... trying to figure out what number to get. Lucky 13 or maybe number 3 is appropriate as that is what she should be in my garage if I manage to keep the Diavel.

My new Sport Classic by ricknieto, on Flickr

3 Is a Magic Number by ricknieto, on Flickr

2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

koko64

I think three is a great number. ;D
A trinity of bikes. ;)
2015 Scrambler 800


Monstyr

Classy!


No baffles in those pipes, the empty screw hole at the exit is the giveaway there.

Did you get the quarter fairing pieces too?, all the specific bits for these bikes are becoming hard to find and commanding high prices now.
The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.

The ModFather

Quote from: Monstyr on May 15, 2015, 01:09:26 AM
Classy!

Did you get the quarter fairing pieces too?, all the specific bits for these bikes are becoming hard to find and commanding high prices now.

No I still dont have the quarter fairings. The pisser is a pair sold on ebay for $250 about 3 days before I bought the bike!  [bang]

I can order them from Ducati Omaha as they are still available from Ducati but at about $250 for each side plus shipping.  >:(

If anyone has a line on a pair of these in Red let me know!
2005 S2R 800 Analog Motorcycles Custom Build
2007 Sport Classic 1000S
2008 848 Track Bike
2015 Diavel Dark - Sold
2005 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

Stabel1

It was mentioned before....try to keep all of em. life is too short...and they look great  ;D
Having a sport classic i don't think it is that uncomfortable, especially compared with a superbike and there is nothing like the air cooled sound with the right exhaust and for normal life the power is enough.
Enjoy. Klaus