MotoGP 2015 Argentina ***SPOILER***

[duccarlos]

...and I need to know what's wrong with getting the most points of all the racers on the grid?

Isn't that how every championship is won?

Nicky may not have won many races, and he's certainly no MM, but you still have to call him a World Champion.

I'm not taking anything away from Nicky. He won the championship, but as Rossi, MotoGP in 2015 is not MotoGP in 2006. In 2006 there was a ton more competition. Consistently finishing in the points was definitely an advantage. Now you have to consistently win, point blank. If you can't win at least a quarter of the races, you won't be winning a championship unless the other 3 guys are out. Dovi needs to find the extra edge. Jorghey and the Turd have the ability to check out when they hit the lead. MM and Rossi have the ability to race in any conditions. Can you honestly say that Dovi has the talent to consistently win? The guy is a great 2nd rider, opportunistic and difficult to pass, but he would need to be in the lead. Ducati needs to invest in getting one of the big boys while Iannone develops.

[m9hundo]

+1 on that ^

what do you think of JLo going to Ducati?

[manwithgun]

The MM/Rossi incident was nothing more than hard racing. Rossi had the pace, and MM didn't want to give it up easily and got a little too aggressive. Neither did anything on purpose other than try to win the race.

That's the way that I saw it, and I'll go one step further and say that MM was at fault for his aggression and miscalculation.  You can see him sit up early while Rossi was still finishing his exit.  Having been knocked off line but still leading, Rossi's line choice seems predictable and expected.   Rossi was going for maximum drive and MM should have known that you can't box somebody in,  from the outside, while trailing, with your front tire...    This is one of the few times that Marquez has ever gotten the dirty end of the stick and I imagine he'll be a better racer because of it.   Can't wait for the next bout.

[Triple J]

Agreed...it was MM's fault from what I saw (even if a race incident). I think it's great...the guy actually likes to race, just like Rossi. Stoner, JLo, and Pedro are/were more inclined to settle for second than fight hard for 1st.

[OT]

Marquez has been pulling that same, very aggressive move on riders for years; This time, he didn't get away with it....it's that simple, to me.

[ducpainter]

I'm not taking anything away from Nicky. He won the championship, but as Rossi, MotoGP in 2015 is not MotoGP in 2006. In 2006 there was a ton more competition. Consistently finishing in the points was definitely an advantage. Now you have to consistently win, point blank. If you can't win at least a quarter of the races, you won't be winning a championship unless the other 3 guys are out. Dovi needs to find the extra edge. Jorghey and the Turd have the ability to check out when they hit the lead. MM and Rossi have the ability to race in any conditions. Can you honestly say that Dovi has the talent to consistently win? The guy is a great 2nd rider, opportunistic and difficult to pass, but he would need to be in the lead. Ducati needs to invest in getting one of the big boys while Iannone develops.

We disagree about what it takes to be champion. Winning isn't necessarily it....even today. I do agree that if one rider consistently wins, like MM, that rider will win the championship.

I don't think Nicky has any more talent than Dovi, so, to answer your question, yes under the right circumstances Dovi could be champion too.

Break out the tin foil hats!!  

The MM/Rossi incident was nothing more than hard racing. Rossi had the pace, and MM didn't want to give it up easily and got a little too aggressive. Neither did anything on purpose other than try to win the race.

Thank you

Dovi keeps getting seconds and he could be in it at the end. There isn't anything wrong with consistency. The question...would a Ducati championship this season need an asterisk next to it?

Everyone knew the rules before they started racing. The asterisk would only be necessary for keyboard jockeys and haters.

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what do you think of JLo going to Ducati?

God...I hope not

[koko64]

You know, the possibility of him going to Ducati has increased now. JLo needs to be where he's No.1. It's more likely than ever before.

[ducpainter]

You know, the possibility of him going to Ducati has increased now. JLo needs to be where he's No.1. It's more likely than ever before.

I'll start riding a Honda...or an Ape...or an MV.

If yourghey wants to be No.1 he best start riding like a No 1.

Personally, I don't think Ducati needs a prima donna to complete the development of the bike, or for the fully developed bike to win. I think we all tend to forget the GP15 is about a month or so out of the factory.

[koko64]

But they need an alien. Is Jlo losing his alienidity?














































Bring back Stoner.

[ducpainter]

But they need an alien. Is Jlo losing his alienidity?













































Bring back Stoner.

I don't think they do need an Alien...

...and right know Your'reghey has something going on in his head that is preventing him from winning.

He won't be any help.

[koko64]

So you agree to bringing back Stoner to the Ducati fold?

[ducpainter]

Nah...

what part of prima donna does Casey not fit?

[koko64]

But he's an alien. Hopefully fatherhood has matured him.

[ducpainter]

But he's an alien.

Is he? Is Dani still an Alien...or George? Is

If all winning in GP was putting an Alien on a bike Aprilia could hire You'reghey and he'd win...right?

This whole discussion goes back to the Honda mentality that it's only the bike, and any rider can win...just in reverse.

It takes a package IMO, and the wrong rider on the right bike can't win any easier than the right rider on the wrong bike.

It's why they line up on Sunday...you never know what can happen once the red lights go out.

[koko64]

He is, or was. If the desire is still there, and it wasn't, but maybe he's sick of hunting on the farm and it's coming back. Honda knocking him back may just play into Ducati's hands (or Suzuki's). He might win on three makes yet.