Resetting Service Light - 696

Started by Kev M, June 08, 2015, 08:18:13 AM

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Kev M

Hey ALL!

READER'S DIGEST VERSION - Does anyone know if a dealer can reset the service light IF IT HAS NOT GONE OFF YET? I.E. if you perform a service early, can they restart the counter for the next time it will illuminate, OR if you reach the point of the next scheduled service mileage in only a few hundred more miles will the wrench icon still come back on?

FULL VERSION:

Hope all are well. It seems that it has taken us much longer than we originally planned on to get to the first Desmo service on our 2011 696. (I'll make excuses for her, in the 4 years since we bought this bike to replace her Harley Jenn has had 2 babies, completed a 3-year Fellowship in Neonatology which meant 80 hour weeks in the NICU and 7 or so 24 hour calls per month, sold a house, bought a house, moved, finally started her post residency/fellowship career etc.) So, yeah, it took her 4 years to get to 6800 miles...

We were actually hoping to get to the full 7500 miles by the end of next week (when we have a staycation of bike trips planned), but a few weeks ago we returned from a nice outing and put the bikes away, then a day or two later walked out to the garage to find the Duc had a flat rear tire!

Seems on that last outing she'd hit a sea shell or rock that was big enough/jagged enough to actually puncture the original rear (which was getting close to the wear bars anyway).

I figured I could just pull the rear wheel and have a new tire mounted, but after thinking about it, I figured we were so close to that 7500 Desmo service, AND I was starting to get nervous about the 4 year old timing belts and thought it was smarter to make an appointment and just have the whole thing done.

(One of the deals we made when we bought this bike was "you're going to be an attending in a few years, YOU PAY FOR SERVICE, I'M NOT DOING BELTS AND VALVES UNLESS I HAVE TO").  8)

So we made an appointment with Coopersburg, Eurosports - a mere 80 miles and one state (and toll bridge) away.

They're going to do the valve check, belts, all the neglected fluids (fork, clutch, brake) etc. and make sure her baby is ready for her, and of course, put on a new rear tire.

We trailered it over (damn that was a long boring drive both ways).

But she'll ride it home, after riding a rare 2-up on one of my bikes to get there.

Question is WHICH BIKE.

I need to get my Guzzi V7 over to them so they can hook up the Guzzi factory scan tool and update the fuel map. No biggie, but just not something I normally have the 5-6 hours (back road, round trip, and a little shop time) to do. So part of me would like to the take the V7. Of course, that's a lot of weight to carry for the V7, so I'd have to totally mess with my rear suspension preload and dampening settings to do it.

OR

I could take the Harley Sportster - it's EXTREMELY comfortable, has a quick and easy-to-adjust rear suspension (just basic Progressive shocks with a ramped pre-load adjuster, no other adjustments) and is actually geared better for the highway if I wanted to get there quick and just take backroads home.

So it comes down to whether or not the dealer is going to be able to pre-reset the Duc's maintenance light.

If they CAN restart the counter and the icon won't come on until another 7500 miles have gone by, then I'll take the Guzzi and have the map updated.

HOWEVER, if no matter what they do the icon is going to come back on when we hit 7500 miles (a mere 700 miles from now, which might be at the end of next week), then I'll just take the Sporty and we can ride the Duc and Goose back up there together in a week or two to get both done.

So that was a long winded way to ask what they can do, and what bike we should take to pick it up.

RIDE SAFE ALL!

Kev


PS - <flamesuit on> RE: for being to lazy to do belts and valves on my own.  :-[ [laugh]
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696


jduke

I just noticed I ended my answer with a period. I can get long winded sometimes, sorry.

Kev M

Quote from: jduke on June 08, 2015, 02:19:07 PMI just noticed I ended my answer with a period. I can get long winded sometimes, sorry.
;D

It's OK, at least you didn't candy coat it.

One short follow up question?


No to what? :o:-[:o

I'm assuming you're saying they can't reset the clock on a maintenance light that hasn't illuminated yet?
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696

Curmudgeon

The light has to illuminate before it can be reset/extinguished with the factory tool, otherwise I'd have had my last service done before spring. Will have to wait in line now, but the bike isn't going to break with a few extra miles.  ;)

That Service light is in the ECU and ONLY trips every 7,500 miles...
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Kev M

Nuts! That's what I was afraid of, thanks. Guess I'll take the Sporty.

Follow up question.... Does it come on exactly at 7500 or does it come on a few hundred early to warn you service is due soon? I'm guessing it comes on at 7500 exactly?
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696

Kev M

Not that I doubted any answers I got here, but Massimo at Eurosports confirmed.

Although, unlike FBF, he said just to stop by when the light comes on and they'd shut it off in a matter of minutes.

[thumbsup]

Bike should be done by tomorrow...hopefully the weather cooperates and we'll pick it up Monday, CRAP closed Mondays, hopefully TUESDAY then!

Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696

Curmudgeon

7,500 on the money IIRC or very, very close to it. Sophisticated enough..., but not quite a European luxury car.  ;)
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

Kev M

I have to admit that I'm really a Harley and, of the last decade or so, a Guzzi guy. That said, I have to say that our experience with this Duc the past 4 years has been nothing short of fantastic.

I've been impressed by the fit, feel, finish, and rock solid dependability.

Fueling has been neigh on perfect, the chassis (suspension/brakes/handling) have been all we've ever wanted from it.

I've ridden bigger, faster, flashier, more plush, etc. bikes, but this experience would make me buy any other Ducati in which I was interested without hesitation.

Though then I'd also have to admit, I'm now certain I'm just not a "sport bike" guy and the only current model I'd likely consider is the Scrambler (which I really like in street clothes, maybe s Yellow Icon). But that's just a flavor thing.
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696

EEL

Mine is still on and I stopped looking at it. My local dealership said it would cost a half an hour of service $45

I asked them why and the response was that it takes at least 20-30 minutes to reset. So I asked them how much an oil change costs if I brought in the oil and filter.

....35..

And that is why I don't trust service shops.

I'd rather just buy a VDSTS equivalent and do it myself. At least then i can do other stuff too..

Kev M

Well, if you've got a Weber-Marelli ECM, you don't need a VDST, I THINK you can use Guzzidiag for free.

But I've got a Siemens ECM and I don't think the VDST or GuzziDiag work on it.
Current Fleet

18 Guzzi V7III
16 FLHP (Police RK)
13 Guzzi V7
11 M696

SpikeC

 Your local shop is incompetent.

Quote from: EEL on June 10, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
Mine is still on and I stopped looking at it. My local dealership said it would cost a half an hour of service $45

I asked them why and the response was that it takes at least 20-30 minutes to reset. So I asked them how much an oil change costs if I brought in the oil and filter.

....35..

And that is why I don't trust service shops.

I'd rather just buy a VDSTS equivalent and do it myself. At least then i can do other stuff too..
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DarkMonster620

Quote from: EEL on June 10, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
Mine is still on and I stopped looking at it. My local dealership said it would cost a half an hour of service $45

I asked them why and the response was that it takes at least 20-30 minutes to reset. So I asked them how much an oil change costs if I brought in the oil and filter.

....35..

And that is why I don't trust service shops.

I'd rather just buy a VDSTS equivalent and do it myself. At least then i can do other stuff too..
lift seat, connect DDS2.0 turn ign on, click on service reset, turn ign off, turn ign on, done . . . about 5 mins
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EEL

Quote from: SpikeC on June 11, 2015, 02:53:23 PM
Your local shop is incompetent.


Its a ducati dealer.. what do you expect..

Dochunt

Maybe people on this forum can pool some resources and set up regional areas to fix up at least some of the minor repairs.
Some of the guys on this forum have completely rebuilt bikes and probably know more than most of the mechanics.
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