How are those "new" monsters?

[koko64]

 

[He Man]

Traitor!!!!!! off with your head!



i never got the 690. I oogled it for a month and went to a few dealers, but ultimately, that close ratio gearbox kinda sucks for your everyday ride. In the woods, youd be begging to have a real dirt bike, and then when you take it in the tough stuff, youll cry when you drop it.

All in all, i am looking to get another DR650. If i get one next year, i think i would be down to do the TAT with you, i originally pieced it at 27 days. My idea was to blast through the east as fast as i can to get to Trinidad and then spend about 2 weeks going from Trinidad to San Diego (which is a snails pace, but i plan on doing lots of stopping and appreciating nature). leaving my bike at my friends place and have him sell it there or ship it back.

Theres really nothing to see when riding the eastern TAT from what i hear. Lots of straights and boring plains.

if anything, i could always meet you in colorado, i might cheat and haul the bike to colorado.

[1.21GW]

Ok.  I will continue to keep you in the loop.  I am okay with missing some of the east or meeting you halfway.

Treachery.

I propose you be taken henceforth from this place and be smote around the cranium with wet Haddock, at dawn for a fortnight!!

Sounds like somebody wants their free yellow duc for DIMBY privileges revoked.

[ungeheuer]

Any reason you're limiting options to ducs, be it keeping your S2R or buying a new (or new-ish) Monster?  I don't want to be accused of perfidy, but there are lot of other bikes out there.  Or so i hear.  Some of are even fun.

Great advice 

Really, why limit your horizons when  - as 1.21GW so rightly points out - there's so much great variety out there 

Smart bloke is our 1.21.  Very enlightened.  And generous.

[1.21GW]

 

[He Man]

Great advice 

Really, why limit your horizons when  - as 1.21GW so rightly points out - there's so much great variety out there 

Smart bloke is our 1.21.  Very enlightened.  And generous.

I would be limiting myself if I didnt already look at other bikes, so thats kind of an ass backwards comment dont you think? Besides, youre the one calling 1.21 out as a heritic! 

All jokes aside though, nothing really fancys me, i am a converted dirt guy. The ONLY 2 bikes i would get at this point in my life is the DR650, and a WR450F, but im waiting for them to come out with the slant motor. Hell Id probably buy the 690 Enduro if i had the spare money and time...and space ( i already have 3 bikes).

And a 500EXC. And probably a 300XC (maybe an XCW). Next year, im for sure looking hard at the 2016 YZ250FX vs the KTM 300 XC, i miss 4 stroke dirt bikes.

See my problem? lol i dont care much for street bikes, more than i like dual sports and most dual sports suck as everyday bikes.

Eitherway, the decision was made, im keeping the S2R and updating it!

[koko64]

Eitherway, the decision was made, im keeping the S2R and updating it!

 

[EEL]

You would have missed that evo motor dearly.

The low end grunt is simply intoxicating. Unless you're planning on going 140mph or need the electronic rider aids, the newer monsters are not really worth the coin

[He Man]

The low end grunt is simply intoxicating. Unless you're planning on going 140mph or need the electronic rider aids, the newer monsters are not really worth the coin

This the low end on this tuned EVO motor with the TPO BEAST-R kit, is a fire breathing dragon. Its CLEAN, CRISP and just WHOMP WHOMP. My dyno tune was with an open airbox, im going to get it retuned with the Beast-R next year.

im just struggling to find a radial fork setup from an S4Rs. I dont want the longer fork tubes from a SBK, and the new 1199 series bikes have MASSIVE fork diameters (due to the lack of frame, i think the fork stiffness has to increase so they went up in diameter, or they need it to accommodate a big ass piston in the damper system)

[Raux]

I am seriously turned on by MV Agustas bikes lately... All of them. Wonder is they ride as good as they look?

[ducpainter]

I am seriously turned on by MV Agustas bikes lately... All of them. Wonder is they ride as good as they look?

Several of the guys I ride with at the track have switched to Brutale's from various flavors of Duc.

[EEL]

This the low end on this tuned EVO motor with the TPO BEAST-R kit, is a fire breathing dragon. Its CLEAN, CRISP and just WHOMP WHOMP. My dyno tune was with an open airbox, im going to get it retuned with the Beast-R next year.

My EVO has an MWR power up kit and probably isn't nearly as aggressive as yours but I share the feeling.

The corner speed thru mountain sweepers is absolutely ridiculous. It has no top end but coming out of corners, these pull harder than some 1000cc motors (for the first 3 seconds).

[Mike P]

Are we talking about the same 821 Monster here?  Some of the comments certainly don't sound like they are being made about the same bike I've been riding for the past year.

RBW - For me it's a non-issue.  I've had several bikes with 'conventional' throttle control that weren't this smooth.

Sport mode - Mine never goes out of Sport mode.  Of course if you dump the clutch and hit WOT the front will point towards the moon but what do you expect?  It does like to rev.  Has a different personality above 7,000 rpm.

Ergos - I'm about 5'10'' with a 31 inch inseam.  I put the seat in the low position, added bar risers and a Rizoma bar for a more conventional riding position, and I may replace the seat at some point in time but the stock one is livable for a 300 mile day.  But I've done similar things to most other bikes I've intended to keep for an extended period of time.  I don't feel the 821 is any more cramped than the Kawasaki ZRX1200r I had for a decade.

Mileage - OMG! I don't know that you can ride the 821 hard enough on public roads to get less than 42 mpg.  I got 46 mpg on a 250 mile ride a couple of weeks ago, riding at a variety of speeds.

Handling - It is a Monster so that's a given.

Tires - The Rosso IIs are grippy but they're history for me.  I got a whopping 3,100 miles out of the back tire before the cords started showing.  Have an Angel GT on the back now.

Niggling points - The exhaust does throw off some heat.  Tolerable but noticeable.  Stock mirrors are useless.  I don't know who the rocket scientist was that dreamt up dual purposing the turn signal cancel button to do mode changes but that irritates the hell out of me.

Personally I think the new Monsters are some of the better looking water cooled naked bikes available.  The Aprilia Tuono is nice, and of course (IMHO) there's not a naked bike out there that is even in the same league as the Brutale when it comes to looks.

One thing I find entertaining about Ducati owners is they all have opinions and are not shy about sharing 

[koko64]

This the low end on this tuned EVO motor with the TPO BEAST-R kit, is a fire breathing dragon. Its CLEAN, CRISP and just WHOMP WHOMP. My dyno tune was with an open airbox, im going to get it retuned with the Beast-R next year.

im just struggling to find a radial fork setup from an S4Rs. I dont want the longer fork tubes from a SBK, and the new 1199 series bikes have MASSIVE fork diameters (due to the lack of frame, i think the fork stiffness has to increase so they went up in diameter, or they need it to accommodate a big ass piston in the damper system)

Have your oem forks sold yet? Maybe a cartridge kit rebuild? The oem brakes are good, but even better with radial master cylinders for better leverage and feel. You'd be stuck with axial calipers unless you got the lower conversion kit. The 65mm calipers work great anyway, even more so for a streetbike.

[He Man]

i have not. i havent been able to source a set of forks that are acceptable for my use. I really want to try and grab a set of S4Rs forks.

Everything else is too long for Handle bars. So if i dont find anything in the next 2-3 months, im going to scrap the fork swap and just keep waht i have (but still swap to radial masters).

I am 100% going to get a Penske double clicker rear. My biggest project to tackle will be how to install a motogadget M unit along side the injection system.


2nd biggest project is the paint. The frame needs to be stripped and prepped for paint, not sure what color yet (probably bronze color). And im still debating what color tank i want to go with.