MotoGP Misano----Spoilers

[Raux]

Wow. I miss all the fun. Saw last six laps only.   Huge effect on championship

[thought]

Wow. Didn't expect any of that but great drama for this race. This season has been amazing so far.

[m9hundo]

  why didn't Rossi pit sooner 

[OT]

True, Rossi seemed overly conservative by staying out one lap longer than JLo and two longer than Marquez but, in hindsight, kept his rubber-side down.  'Copter views of the track (Fox Sports actually good coverage this race) showed a drying (narrow) race line, but still wet to either side when the riders started back in for the slicks-equipped bikes. JLo changed bike one lap earlier than Rossi, and he crashed out (looked like he lost the rear) on the slicks.

Does anyone know what happened between Rossi and Marquez exiting the pits after the first bike change?  Rossi just in front and then suddenly 3-4 seconds behind?

[1.21GW]

why didn't Rossi pit sooner  

Worked out ok with regard to the championship, but really could have been a big screw up on his part...

When I first saw he wasn't pitting after he took the lead, I thought (still do) that he realized JLo would follow him and since he is better on a wet bike he figured he'd extend his lead, which he did (it was + a few seconds when JLo decided to pit).  Pitting would give those seconds back as they would likely exit pit row nearly neck and neck.

By the end, though, he was losing 20s/lap (!!!) to riders on slicks, according to commentators.  So by pitting earlier, JLo was gaining +10-20/s lap until Rossi pitted.

Still, I enjoyed the game of chicken, which I read as Rossi saying "I know I'm better than you in the current situation, Jorge, so I'm going to dare you to keep up with me."

[ducpainter]

...and when George re-entered the race...

he panicked and didn't have the patience to let the tires come to him.

Seems Rossi's tactics worked.

[m9hundo]

It's the Jedi master tricks of Vale at work again. Marquez with fresh slicks was gaining on Rossi incredibly fast BUT the fight is not with Marquez it's with JLO so I can see why he really didn't care about the MM factor. I have to watch it again and see when JLO pit

[1.21GW]

I was curious to see what would happen if both yammies pitted at the same time.  The bikes were so close that it would have created potential for an issue for at least one rider.

What is the rule/etiquette?  Do they put the bike that is ahead in front of the other bike, or do they just put them out according to where their half of the Yamaha garage is?  If the latter case, then if Rossi came in with Jorge on his heels but Jorge's bike was the one in front, wouldn't Jorge's pitting effectively cut off and disrupt Rossi's switch 'n exit?  I'm talking when they were close and would pit within a second of each other---with a 4-5 second gap none of this would matter.

I know this is all speculation and kinda irrelevant now, but as they were showing the bikes warmed up and ready for the switch I kept thinking that there was going to be an incident.

[ducpainter]

I was curious to see what would happen if both yammies pitted at the same time.  The bikes were so close that it would have created potential for an issue for at least one rider.

What is the rule/etiquette?  Do they put the bike that is ahead in front of the other bike, or do they just put them out according to where their half of the Yamaha garage is?  If the latter case, then if Rossi came in with Jorge on his heels but Jorge's bike was the one in front, wouldn't Jorge's pitting effectively cut off and disrupt Rossi's switch 'n exit?  I'm talking when they were close and would pit within a second of each other---with a 4-5 second gap none of this would matter.

I know this is all speculation and kinda irrelevant now, but as they were showing the bikes warmed up and ready for the switch I kept thinking that there was going to be an incident.

The bikes stay in front of the garage they roll in to...

and you're overthinking it...

I think.

[Speeddog]

I think the garage locations are assigned randomly.
Factory teams have adjoining garages, no idea how things get assigned between the two.
I'm looking for that info, as it did have some bearing on how things worked out.

Impressive ride by Bradley, doing the entire race on slicks.
Leading lap 8, 21st by lap 11, then back to 2nd by lap 21.

Slo-mo footage of the front tires transforming into disintegrating furballs, really shocking.

That was a wicked crash for Jlo.
That will likely strengthen his aquaphobia...

Another example of Rossi's ability to think pretty clearly about strategy while riding at 100% speed.
MM is slowly acquiring that skill.
JLo doesn't seem to have much of that skill, he's like the needle on a turntable, in the groove and the music is sweet, but even a small disturbance results in a skreeyawk-zzzryip-pop.

[The Architect]

That was a wicked crash for Jlo.
That will likely strengthen his aquaphobia...

Another example of Rossi's ability to think pretty clearly about strategy while riding at 100% speed.
MM is slowly acquiring that skill.
JLo doesn't seem to have much of that skill, he's like the needle on a turntable, in the groove and the music is sweet, but even a small disturbance results in a skreeyawk-zzzryip-pop.

Oh ya, that's exactly what Lorenzo is.

But I have to say, he managed to keep it together longer than I expected. I thought he was going to lose it as soon as the light rain started.

[OT]

Rossi's inside Lorenzo's head now.... 

[1.21GW]

Rossi's inside Lorenzo's head now.... 

Doesn't mean squat if: 1) weather holds up for remaining races, and 2) Lorenzo continues to get great starts from the front wherein he can take off.

[Triple J]

Rossi isn't in anyone's head...the rain is in JLo's head though.

Had it stayed dry he would most likely have crushed everyone.

[duccarlos]

Rossi isn't in anyone's head...the rain is in JLo's head though.

Had it stayed dry he would most likely have crushed everyone.

+1

I think he was not patient enough heating up the tires. The rain dropped the temp and even though he came out with the medium, I doubt the tires had a chance to get up to temp. That or he hit a wet patch cause he went flying.

Rossi did well keeping the bike rubber side down considering the amount of rubber that was flying off those wets.

Love that Redding crashed at the beginning and ended up 3rd. He was way too calm for his first podium. I would be kissing everyone I saw.