School me on Frame Sliders for an S2R

[superkain]

I am in the market for a good set of frame sliders for my '08 S2R1000.  I hear that there are problems with sliders, causing irreparable damage to the frame with Monsters. 

Anyone have a brand or style that really does a good job of protecting the bike without exposing it to extra risk?

Thank you!

[kopfjäger]

Way too many threads to link, but type frame sliders into the 'search' box and have at it.

[bshinn]

I don't think there are any. It's a design issue, for them to be effective they have to be long, like 4".  That's a fair amount of leverage on an M10-12 bolt when sliding across the pavement or worse.

The president of my club was running them on a SS track bike and was told to remove them by a very respected tuner/builder.  He basically said there will be less damage without them.

[koko64]

Thanks guys.

I have axel and bar end sliders, but I will hold off frame sliders.

[superkain]

I don't think there are any. It's a design issue, for them to be effective they have to be long, like 4".  That's a fair amount of leverage on an M10-12 bolt when sliding across the pavement or worse.

The president of my club was running them on a SS track bike and was told to remove them by a very respected tuner/builder.  He basically said there will be less damage without them.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll bear it in mind.

[S21FOLGORE]

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=71079.0

you will hear “horror stories (frame slider will / did cause more damage)” from some people.
But, essentially those horror stories are the same as “wearing helmet is more dangerous” , “ wearing seat belt will cause more damage” kind of story. There may be a time, like once in a million occasion that it caused more damage than it prevented, but, so what?
Naysayers (to frame sliders) often point out that

A) The slider can “grab” the road surface and bend the frame, and / or crack the engine mount in high speed crush.
B) In a high-side, end-over-end, rear ended collision, head on collision, sliders won’t work

Well, if the impact is hard enough to cause frame / engine mount damage, your bike is going to be scrap without slider anyway. And we are talking about street bike ridden by normal people.

If you highs side, tumbling on the asphalt, you have more important things to worry than frame slider causing damage to the frame.

Front axle slider will help to protect the fork bottom case if you drop the bike.

[Two dogs]

T-Rex sliders on my S2R1000 They saved the bike in a relatively low speed slide maybe 40 kph by the time I ran out of skill
and put it down .
Damage was zero just a bent gear lever and replaced the sliders , the bike slid across damp tar then over the edge of the black top into gravel
chucking me into the guard rail severely damaging my new jacket and ego 

On my track bike I have had three low sides on Evotek sliders with no damage to the bike other than ground down pegs and levers.

High speed slide may be a totally different outcome , but damage would be expected in that event.