Gasket questions

[brecchi]

Hello, I have a 2001 Monster 900 and I was going to get the engine cases powder coated.  Do any of you guys know what gaskets and other misc parts Ill need to swap everything back into place once the pieces are done?   

Thanks,
Ben

[koko64]

Ducati changed from case gaskets to Threebond at some stage. Cant remember when. Someone will chime in with the exact details.
Chéers.

[Speeddog]

IMO, just paint it.
You can do that with the main cases still together.

Powder coat you're going to strip the cases bare, get them coated, and then put all new parts in.
A lot more cost, and a lot more work.

But if the motor is run out or broken, not a big difference.

[koko64]

I'll admit to being a spray can VHT enamel engine case paint kind of guy.  Mask up areas carefully or only remove outer cases while painting and fitting a light flywheel, etc. Less hassle imo.

[brecchi]

Hmm, that sounds tempting but I was hesitant to try that, unless I can get a step by step tutorial from one of you guys.  Im assuming its a bit more involved than just taping off and spraying on.   I didn't think that getting the cases pulled off and powder coated and replaced would be prohibitively expensive.   BTW, Im only talking about powder coating the outer cases.  Not sure what you mean about replacing all new parts. Sounds like high Temp paint might be the way to go though.....

[koko64]

I think the seals and bearings in the outer cases get trashed by powder coating. I removed the outer cases and taped up sensitive areas before lightly sanding, prepsoling and spraying for a pretty good job. Others with more patience do a better job than me.

[brecchi]

Any links to those seals and bearings I would need to replace if I pulled of the cases?   Its looking like I might just sand, tape off and spray some hi temp paint on there now, if its that much of a pain/expense.

[koko64]

Ducati Omaha have an on line parts list that people here use.

[stopintime]

Any links to those seals and bearings I would need to replace if I pulled of the cases?   Its looking like I might just sand, tape off and spray some hi temp paint on there now, if its that much of a pain/expense.

If you're just pulling the side covers for paint, you'll only need threebond or similar.

[SpikeC]

 No to thread jack,( I hope) but are you changing the color of the outer cases? If not, what paint did Ducati use on them? I need to do some touching up or repainting on mine and I would like to keep them the same color as stock.

[ducpainter]

No to thread jack,( I hope) but are you changing the color of the outer cases? If not, what paint did Ducati use on them? I need to do some touching up or repainting on mine and I would like to keep them the same color as stock.

No codes listed. It's just some generic silver engine enamel.

[SpikeC]

 Thanks, I guess I will just cruise the hardware/auto parts stores!

[brecchi]

Im just wanting to powder coat the outer cases a matte black.  There was some slight cosmetic damage from an old leaky battery acid from before I picked up the bike, and its a 900 Dark, so I think it would look pretty mean going that route.

[Duck-Stew]

In regards to changing the engine side case covers paint color (alternator and clutch covers):

I used to get that request a lot when doing custom work in SoCal.  Well, after a beer or two one night, I quoted the labor for that ridiculously low.  So low, that when the customer did request the work be done, I blew my own mind with what I had said.

(See, it seems like a little thing to remove, mask, paint & re-install.  But, there's a LOT of labor in cleaning off the three-bond, draining the oil just a touch so it doesn't leak out and the ilk.)

So, in an attempt to cut a corner, I did the following:
I removed all the side cover bolts, cleaned everything thoroughly, masked everything off, used VHT engine paint (accept no substitutes!) and painted them WHILE STILL ON THE BIKE....

The result?!?  It looked great!  Literally, just as great as the ones I had done the month before which ended up costing me even more than the regular quote I gave.  I still lost my a$$ on the $ front with this job, but I had created a viable short-cut.  Customers from that point forward, got a lower $ figure than before.

[koko64]

 

Next time I do this, I will leave the cases and bolts in place and swap bolts after painting with a stainless bolt kit for an even shorter cut.