Ticking sound coming from vertical cylinder, possible valve issue?

Started by SterbenSoup, April 18, 2016, 10:33:15 AM

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SterbenSoup

I have a 2005 Monster 620 ie, and after I last changed my oil the oil level only shows on one side of the bike. IT's only showing on the side were you actually put in the oil(right side).

Since then the bike has been making a fairly loud "ticking" noise, coming from the vertical cylinder, possibly the valves are not getting enough oil?  Since the tick started the power is also almost non-existent.

I'm not sure where to start if there is a clog somewhere, if anyone could give me some direction it would be greatly appreciated.

Blackout

There is only one oil sight glass and it is on the right side of the bike. You normally change your own oil?
2003 Ducati Monster 1000
2005 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
2003 Honda CR250
2008 KTM 990 SuperDuke

SterbenSoup

On mine there is a glass on both sides?  They both have markers for the oil level, and both usually show oil.  I've always changed my own oil on this bike and used both sides to make sure the oil is at the correct level.

SterbenSoup

To clarify, there is one on the right side of the bike and one on the clutch cover.  The one on the clutch cover is the one showing no oil.

Blackout

It's not supposed to show oil. Don't worry about it. My only concern is the loud ticking noise. Did you put the right amount of oil in it?
2003 Ducati Monster 1000
2005 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
2003 Honda CR250
2008 KTM 990 SuperDuke

SterbenSoup

Ok, guess it just threw me off because I never really checked that side much.  The oil level is showing correctly on the right side, I think I put about 3 liters give or take in, same as usual. 

The ticking bothers me as well, like I said it sounds like its coming from the vertical cylinder head.  It's a steady tick and goes faster when I rev the bike, then slows down as the RPM goes down.

Could this be a valve tapping somewhere?  What troubleshooting steps should I take before taking apart the head? 

**Note this bike is basically a project at this point, so I'm not scared to get in deep and learn a bit.  I've already taken the bike apart once when it jumped timing and was able to fix that, so I'm not scared to tear down the head if I need to.

Kopfjäger

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Blackout

Personally, I'd ride it around a bit and see if the noise goes away. Both of my bikes make some unusual noise at different times that have usually gone away.  But if you're feeling like you wanna get greasy, break on into it.
2003 Ducati Monster 1000
2005 Triumph Speed Triple 1050
2003 Honda CR250
2008 KTM 990 SuperDuke

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

SterbenSoup

Quote from: koko64 on April 22, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
Or leaking exhaust from head.

If that were the case, what part of the head do I need to look into?  I haven't torn it down yet but plan on it tomorrow, if I can check and possibly fix this without tearing too deep into it I'd much rather take that route.

koko64

I was thinking the pipe isnt completely sealed to the head, possibly
2015 Scrambler 800

Speeddog

About the previous jumped timing.......

What happened, and what was repaired or replaced?
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SterbenSoup

Ok, so I'm not very good for the names for everything but I'll do my best.

The timing jumped because somehow the hole that held the key that held the "cam gear"? in place was bored out, so the key would literally just fall out.  Obviously this was a big problem. 

May have been a cheap fix but instead of getting a new cam shaft I used JB weld to hold the key in place, and so far the timing is fine.  I ended up getting new belts because I didn't know how many miles were on the ones I had, since I got the bike at 20k, who knows what the last guy did.

Speeddog

I'm thinking you've still got cam timing issues, and I'd say certainly that if the previous problem was on the vertical cylinder.

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SterbenSoup

It was the vertical cylinder.  I'll check the timing this weekend when I get time and see if it's still set or if it's off again.  Thanks!