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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2016, 07:06:33 AM » |
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I felt more comfortable on my Monster than the track bike simply because I had a ton more riding time on the Monster. When the wife finally gives the thumbs up to a "new" bike, I think I'll stick to riding the same bike on both street and track.
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2016, 03:29:14 PM » |
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I felt more comfortable on my Monster than the track bike simply because I had a ton more riding time on the Monster. When the wife finally gives the thumbs up to a "new" bike, I think I'll stick to riding the same bike on both street and track.
I agree. I think the only issue I will have is ground clearance on the Monster but if I can hang off more then I won't have to lean the bike more. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2016, 05:59:53 PM » |
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The monster should be a fine trackbike. it is a newer generation that is more supersport than old school monster so some of the older monsters limitations are not a problem. Ground clearance should be fine once you fix the suspension.... you did fix the suspension right?  Not to worry just ride the bike and enjoy it, if you like it then the first stop will be tires followed by suspension mods. After you get the suspension set then work on making the bike more crash proof, clip ons and guards. I am not a fan of frame sliders but you need something to make the bike less damage prone in small crashes. I built an old school monster trackbike and had a blast riding it, crashed it twice hard and both times the bike fared better than myself. If the bike becomes a dedicated trackbike then think about hanging a full fairing on it if you want. I do not bother on my bikes as I generally run my 750ss now with no fairings at the speeds it reaches there is little issue without one. |
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2016, 07:07:05 AM » |
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Ground clearance? What are you even remotely going to drag on a Monster?
On my 1100 EVO I would have to leave elbows on the track before I drag any bike part.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2016, 08:34:09 AM » |
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I've used my M900 at the track. I get passed on the straightaways but in the corners I have as much fun as the next guy. I've only done three full tracks days on it, but it's always been fun and I've never wanted a faster or more sporty bike. Plenty to work on with my monster technique. I prefer trying to get better/faster on a bike with modest performance rather than trying to learn to tame a rocket. Just my preference.
Plus, as it's my street bike, in the end I'm becoming more intimate with the extreme performance ends of my daily rider.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2016, 11:43:01 AM » |
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Ground clearance? What are you even remotely going to drag on a Monster?
On my 1100 EVO I would have to leave elbows on the track before I drag any bike part.
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2016, 02:20:27 PM » |
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I started off with a 2006 S2R-1000 and it was a great bike both on the street and the track. I ended up replacing it with a ZX6R for track use and it was miles better than the S2R. One of the main reasons I quit using the S2R on the track was because I was worried about dropping it and the high cost of repairs. The Jap bikes are much cheaper to fix if you end up dropping one.
I then swapped the S2R-1000 for a 2012 Evo and it's a nice bike for the street but the one time I took it to the track I hated it and never took it back.
My track bikes are now a 2009 GSXR-750 and a Kawasaki 300, as the ZX6R ended up with a bad transmission which was common to the 05-06 models.
Just my experience though.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2016, 02:32:44 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2016, 02:43:19 PM » |
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Sorry but I gotta laugh when I read of Ducati's being expensive to track and the next thing you hear is that the jap bike broke....... but it was a known issue.
Any bike can be expensive to fix if you fall, IF you want to make it 100% perfect again. It should correctly be, buy a track bike because you will not fix it cosmetically 100% and that is cheaper than making it perfect again.
I see plenty of bikes crashed and the Japanese do not do any better in a crash than the Italians or anyone else. yes there are good and bad models but there is no perfect country of origin. If your track budget is low then start with a bike that has lots of cheap parts or you can easily fix yourself. Twins usually do not crack open on the ends and dump fluids so they are starting off ahead of many inline motors. Singles are great and motards are almost built to crash.
bottom line they all can break so figure out what you like and make it as crashable as you can. avoid former race bikes unless you know who owned it and how it was cared for. Many race bikes are worn out by the time they are sold, this is often why they were sold in the first place.
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2016, 02:52:08 PM » |
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My Ducati's are expensive.
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2016, 03:25:28 PM » |
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Any bike can blow up or get wadded at the track. I agree with choosing a sport bike that has plenty of spares at the wrecking yards.
I never liked riding any of my street bikes at the track with that nagging doubt in the back of your mind. Trashing cheap fibreglass is cheaper than oem road gear. I remember a Bimota and a 916 (SP?) got totaled that day at the Island. Some insurance companies don't touch track bikes so check on that.
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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2016, 03:41:00 PM » |
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My Ducati's are expensive. Anything that gets used hard is expensive unless you are planing on disposing of it, this is the same in track bikes and things you chase around the bedroom. I feel an invoice coming on.................. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2016, 03:45:35 PM » |
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Anything that gets used hard is expensive, this is the same in track bikes and things you chase around the bedroom.
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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2016, 03:54:46 PM » |
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Evidently you never rode a first gen Monster on the track.
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2016, 04:03:59 PM » |
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Anything that gets used hard is expensive unless you are planing on disposing of it, this is the same in track bikes and things you chase around the bedroom.
I feel an invoice coming on..................
Everything is expensive...you're lucky if you get what you pay for. I'm not too worried about the second part...I'm going to ignore the paid on account money and make believe the balance is the bill. That makes it cheaper...right? On another note...the Monster needs a battery...been plugged in for days and the red light won't go out and it won't crank.   |
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