S2R1000 Won't start

Started by Kabulpostie, April 26, 2016, 11:19:34 AM

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Kabulpostie

So I replaed the basket and clutch pack a couple weekends ago. bike started fine, but I couldn't ride it because of rain. Tried to go on a ride with my brother yesterday and of course the battery was dead. Bike sat on charger all night but I still can't get it to charge. It sounds like it barely wants to turn over. It's a lithium battery only a couple months old. Took a video and put on youtube of trying to start it.

Any idea what's going on? It's supposed to be nice this week and I would really like to get a ride in.

stopintime

Those batteries are reported as very fragile when they go below a certain charge.

It might be dead....
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koko64

#2
What type and what size (amp hours and CCA)? Reason I ask is that I found a hard starting Marelli 1100 with a tiny little Li knockoff with insufficient amp hour capacity and CCA for the demands of the motor and the Marelli starting programme.
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He Man

if the voltage goes below ~10.8v with no load the cells are toasted.

Kabulpostie

So I just put the voltage meter on it. With nothing on the battery ready 13.2 volts. When I tried to start it it bounced around from 7.4 to 10 volts during the starting process

He Man

actually  its loaded*

i remember this video i made. turns out it was the battery.


Kabulpostie

I just installed a brand new battery and had the same result. What's my next step? Could it have something to do with the clutch replacement? It did start right after I got done though..

2WheelsFTW

Are your trying to start in neutral with the clutch lever held in?  Bleed your clutch and double check your lever adjustment.  After that I would look into maybe some loose battery connections.
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Howie

Before anything make sure the engine is free to turn mechanically.  Remove the spark plugs, then, if you have one, turn the engine with a turning tool.  If you don't have the tool, raise the rear wheel, put the bike in 6th gear and turn the wheel slowly and carefully.  Remember, that wheel gives you a lot of leverage. 

Kabulpostie

#9
All right, removed spark plugs and put it in sixth. It took a fair amount of effort to turn the wheel, but I'm not sure what it is supposed to feel  like


I've gone through and made sure all electrical connections are tight. It doesn't seem to be going through the whole start up process, I hit the starter and it only goes a couple of times, it seems like it should go on for a couple of seconds.

Also is it normal to hear air during starting? I would assume so since the cyliders are moving, but I've just never heard it before

Duck-Stew

Quote from: Kabulpostie on April 27, 2016, 10:36:28 AM
All right, removed spark plugs and put it in sixth. It took a fair amount of effort to turn the wheel, but I'm not sure what it is supposed to feel  like


I've gone through and made sure all electrical connections are tight. It doesn't seem to be going through the whole start up process, I hit the starter and it only goes a couple of times, it seems like it should go on for a couple of seconds.

Also is it normal to hear air during starting? I would assume so since the cyliders are moving, but I've just never heard it before

I'm *ASSUMING* that the air you're hearing is coming from the cylinders because the spark plugs are removed.  I may be wrong.
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Kabulpostie

I reinstalled the sparkplugs..probably out of the airbox no?

2WheelsFTW

I know I hear my cylinders sucking air, I have pod filters however. Don't think I ever heard it from the factory un-modded airbox.
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Kabulpostie

The top has been cut off.  so not completely stock. But it doesn't explain why it won't start..

He Man

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Quote from: Kabulpostie on April 27, 2016, 10:36:28 AM
All right, removed spark plugs and put it in sixth. It took a fair amount of effort to turn the wheel, but I'm not sure what it is supposed to feel  like


I've gone through and made sure all electrical connections are tight. It doesn't seem to be going through the whole start up process, I hit the starter and it only goes a couple of times, it seems like it should go on for a couple of seconds.

Also is it normal to hear air during starting? I would assume so since the cyliders are moving, but I've just never heard it before


should not be a lot of force to turn in sixth with the plugs removed (from both cylinders). it should be no harder than trying to roll a car tire up a moderate incline. once you get it going it should be also fairly easy. if you have a rusted chain then it may be harder.

did you put in your pressure plate with the notch lined up and all. the basics. if you didnt well. thats a problem.

from here, id start with the basics. check  for spark. check for fuel, then check  your ground.