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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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Reply #60 on:
February 16, 2017, 11:39:22 AM »
Quote from: koko64 on February 16, 2017, 03:04:22 AM
How's it going?
Well, not too well at the moment, still waiting for the crank to come back from the balancer, and waiting for some response from the company that could supply oil cooler hoses. And I´ve realized that ever so slowly the winter is coming to an end, and if I want to have the bike rideable in time I should concentrate on that for now.
One item is I´d like to have is some kind of a half fairing, and so far the top half of a 1098 fairing seems like the best bet:
20170212_190654
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torbjörn bergström
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It does not fit perfectly, so in the end I might use this fairing as a starting point for a bespoke fairing. For instance, this one has air outlets from the rad where I´d like to have air inlets for the rear cylinder, but that will have to wait until next winter.
I´m also thinking about making a crankcase ventilation catch tank in the seat unit, lets see.
Right now, the shock is in pieces for re-shimming. Seems I´ll have to improve on my de-aeration tecniques ....
20170214_201719
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torbjörn bergström
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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Reply #61 on:
February 16, 2017, 11:56:49 AM »
Perhaps try something besides beer?
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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February 16, 2017, 12:20:14 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on February 16, 2017, 11:56:49 AM
Perhaps try something besides beer?
I´ll think about it ...
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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February 21, 2017, 09:53:52 AM »
It's taking shape
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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February 21, 2017, 02:15:38 PM »
Quote from: koko64 on February 21, 2017, 09:53:52 AM
It's taking shape
Well, yeah ... I´m not entirely convinced about the shape it´taking, but it´ll have to do for now After all, it´s a rolling project
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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April 02, 2017, 12:32:05 PM »
Well, summer is drawing close, ad I have to concentrate on stuff necessary to have the bike running; the fairing project hs been shelved for the time beeing.
Right now I´m working on a cranckcase ventilation catch tank. Im moving the reed valve to after the tank, on the assumption that more volume is better:
20170402_201438
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torbjörn bergström
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As mentioned before, on a special like this, everythng takes time since everything has to be fabricated. The air hose nipple for the idle stepper motor interefered with the frame cross-member, so a little bracket to solve that needed fabricating:
20170331_173812
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torbjörn bergström
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Other than that, not much progress lately. Lots of work, and other stuff needing doing.
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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April 11, 2017, 11:16:51 AM »
Well,
this started out as a standard 749 / 999 rear sub frame. I think, now it´s mostly TIG weld. Or attempted TIG weld, just as the exhaust last winter was my learning project for thin-wall stainless TIG welding, this has been my project for learning alu TIG welding. Tacky welding apart, it has been getting (slightly) better, at least I´m pretty sure the metal will fuse (as opposed to just melting), and again I´ve learned how important weld preparation is. Any irregularity in the seam pre-weld will show up in the weld.
20170411_195100
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When I bought the alu sheet, I thought the white surface was protetctive foil, but it turned out to be very stubborn paint, renants of which contaminated the weld area, and maybe using sanding wheels also use for other metals does not help.
Anyway, it´s in place now, oil cooler hoses next, I ordered hoses and connectors yesterday.
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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Reply #67 on:
April 11, 2017, 01:03:47 PM »
For TIG welding aluminum, clean weld area with a degreaser, specifically non-chlorinated product.
Scary story:
http://www.brewracingframes.com/safety-alert-brake-cleaner--phosgene-gas.html
I scrub the weld zone with a stainless steel wire brush, which is used only for that task.
Gas lens to promote better Argon coverage.
Practice, practice, practice.
And do a bit of welding on similar size scraps beforehand to warm up and get the welder setting correct.
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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Reply #68 on:
April 11, 2017, 01:34:37 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on April 11, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
For TIG welding aluminum, clean weld area with a degreaser, specifically non-chlorinated product.
Scary story:
http://www.brewracingframes.com/safety-alert-brake-cleaner--phosgene-gas.html
I scrub the weld zone with a stainless steel wire brush, which is used only for that task.
Gas lens to promote better Argon coverage.
Practice, practice, practice.
And do a bit of welding on similar size scraps beforehand to warm up and get the welder setting correct.
After almost torching off my bike, probably due to brake cleaner igniting on the exhaust, I´ve gotten even more cautios about chemicals than I was. Over here, thrichlorethylene was a common degreaser before it got banned on carcinogenic suspicions. It was preferred over hydrocarbon-based fluids due to beeing non-flammable, but on hot surfaces it would de-compose into chlorine gas .... nasty stuff of WW1 (in)fame.
My welding deteriorates seriously when my patience drops off, especially since preparation effort also drops off .... with alu and TIG, it´s fascinating what can be covered up with a bit more filler ... but it shows.
It´s also hard to weld bigger pieces without a gas pedal, it´s a pretty huge difference at the start and the end of the weld due to the initially cold work piece getting warmer and warmer. Beeing gifted would help ... but at least I can get more careful with preparations.
But I think TIG (and oxy-acethylene) welding is fun, so I practice when I can.
And Speeddog, thanks for the tips
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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Reply #69 on:
May 14, 2017, 01:19:20 AM »
Well,
it´s off for the first track day of the year tomorrow. The bike still has the old motor, but the new crankcase ventilation, rebuilt and re-valved shock, hopefully functioning slipper clutch, and, just barely, the new oil cooler arrangement:
20170513_181419
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torbjörn bergström
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20170513_224944
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Not that I need it, the way the weather is looking today ... but hopefully it will be a summer eventually this year as well.
I was trying get hoses done with press fittings as that makes for smaller parts, but in the end I had to revert t good ol´Goodridge. Quite good kit, actually, but it is not easy t get teh angled couplings angle the right way.
I also think I will try a 90 degree bend for the motor block inlet, the 45 degree did not come out as I had expected.
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May 14, 2017, 08:07:32 AM »
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May 28, 2017, 07:33:19 AM »
The hopefully functioning slipper clutch turned ot to slip as happily as ever, so I just did a few trundle stints to get the feel of the bike. Apart from the clutch, everything seemed to work, at least at no-slip-provoking low revs and trundle tempo.
I really don´t see what´s wrong with the clutch. I have now compared it really closely with the old STM I had on the Monster 900. Even though quite a few of the part numbers are different, it seems that the actual parts are identical to the old one, so now the new clutch is assebled exactly as I used to have the old one on the M900. I also have the old main spring to swap with, and as a last resort, a complete standard clutch with everything needed to change; in an hour that should be possible, even in the pits.
Next track day is Wednesday next week, let´s see if I can get the STM to work or if it will be the standard clutch ...
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May 28, 2017, 08:17:48 AM »
Is it a coil spring or diaphragm type?
My vote would be to run the standard clutch next week and thus be able to see how the rest of the bike works at speed...
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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May 28, 2017, 09:43:32 AM »
Quote from: Speeddog on May 28, 2017, 08:17:48 AM
Is it a coil spring or diaphragm type?
My vote would be to run the standard clutch next week and thus be able to see how the rest of the bike works at speed...
It´s a diaphragm type.
I´ll run it first stint, if it does not work I´ll swap it for a standard clutch.
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Re: Another no-Monster build thread
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May 28, 2017, 01:51:43 PM »
Good luck.
Will be watching how she goes.
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