Sachsenring 2017...spoilers

[ducpainter]

Heads up for anyone that hasn't seen it. motogp is offering the 2009 race free...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/07/19/sachsenring-2009-motogp-full-race/109074

[duccarlos]

I haven't seen the wheelie issues the winglets were fixing on the Duc. The problem is going into turn 11 where the front is super light. Let's hope that the Ducs can load the front better than previous years.

[Speeddog]

The electronics more or less eliminate the wheelie issues by reducing power.
More downforce on the front allows more power to be applied before the front wheel comes up.

The front getting light as the speed goes up, is indeed an issue, Dovi's wicked tankslapper over the crest at Mugello as an example.

Weather reports show significant chance of rain for Fri & Sat, then clear for Sunday.

[koko64]

Rain! Go Jackass!
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[koko64]

FP1 in the dry so far
Dovi
Mav
Pedro

[duccarlos]

FP1:
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Ducati Team   Ducati   292.8   1'21.599   
2   25   Maverick VIÑALES   SPA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   294.1   1'21.637   0.038 / 0.038
3   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   293.7   1'21.789   0.190 / 0.152
4   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   290.3   1'21.832   0.233 / 0.043
5   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Pull&Bear Aspar Team   Ducati   293.6   1'21.840   0.241 / 0.008
6   93   Marc MARQUEZ   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   292.0   1'21.898   0.299 / 0.058
7   5   Johann ZARCO   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   290.9   1'21.973   0.374 / 0.075
8   9   Danilo PETRUCCI   ITA   OCTO Pramac Racing   Ducati   292.3   1'21.992   0.393 / 0.019
9   43   Jack MILLER   AUS   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   291.2   1'22.068   0.469 / 0.076
10   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   OCTO Pramac Racing   Ducati   291.7   1'22.075   0.476 / 0.007
11   94   Jonas FOLGER   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   291.0   1'22.175   0.576 / 0.100
12   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Ducati Team   Ducati   291.8   1'22.209   0.610 / 0.034
13   35   Cal CRUTCHLOW   GBR   LCR Honda   Honda   290.1   1'22.240   0.641 / 0.031
14   8   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   293.8   1'22.336   0.737 / 0.096
15   22   Sam LOWES   GBR   Aprilia Racing Team Gresini   Aprilia   288.2   1'22.465   0.866 / 0.129
16   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP   Yamaha   290.6   1'22.535   0.936 / 0.070
17   44   Pol ESPARGARO   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   291.8   1'22.593   0.994 / 0.058
18   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team   Ducati   290.0   1'22.612   1.013 / 0.019
19   42   Alex RINS   SPA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   291.6   1'22.642   1.043 / 0.030
20   53   Tito RABAT   SPA   EG 0,0 Marc VDS   Honda   286.0   1'22.745   1.146 / 0.103
21   38   Bradley SMITH   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   288.3   1'22.888   1.289 / 0.143
22   76   Loris BAZ   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing   Ducati   285.4   1'22.989   1.390 / 0.101
23   36   Mika KALLIO   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing   KTM   286.0   1'23.218   1.619 / 0.229
24   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Team SUZUKI ECSTAR   Suzuki   291.3   1'23.299   1.700 / 0.081

[kopfjäger]

FP2:
1.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   28.115s   [Lap 26/26]   279km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   28.178s   +0.063s   [26/27]   277km/h
3.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   28.468s   +0.353s   [28/28]   267km/h
4.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   28.468s   +0.353s   [27/27]   281km/h
5.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   28.527s   +0.412s   [21/23]   279km/h
6.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   28.616s   +0.501s   [19/19]   279km/h
7.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   28.753s   +0.638s   [20/24]   277km/h
8.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   28.988s   +0.873s   [26/26]   282km/h
9.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   28.994s   +0.879s   [17/17]   278km/h
10.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   29.017s   +0.902s   [20/20]   279km/h
11.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   29.076s   +0.961s   [17/19]   275km/h
12.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   29.321s   +1.206s   [27/27]   279km/h
13.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   29.364s   +1.249s   [20/21]   280km/h
14.   Mika Kallio   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   29.446s   +1.331s   [21/21]   268km/h
15.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   29.549s   +1.434s   [22/22]   279km/h
16.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   29.586s   +1.471s   [17/19]   278km/h
17.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   29.774s   +1.659s   [18/18]   268km/h
18.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   29.927s   +1.812s   [26/26]   274km/h
19.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   29.972s   +1.857s   [22/22]   268km/h
20.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   30.017s   +1.902s   [23/23]   281km/h
21.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   30.017s   +1.902s   [23/23]   276km/h
22.   Alex Rins   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   1m   30.342s   +2.227s   [21/21]   277km/h
23.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   30.508s   +2.393s   [30/30]   268km/h
24.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   30.559s   +2.444s   [18/20]   279km/h


The Sachsenring has been resurfaced for 2017. Since there has been no prior testing on the new asphalt, Michelin has four types of front and rear slick tyres available this weekend, while FP1 and FP2 were extended by ten minutes.

[kopfjäger]

Qualifying 2
1.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   27.302s   [Lap 10/10]   274km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   27.462s   +0.160s   [5/10]   284km/h
3.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   27.949s   +0.647s   [5/10]   267km/h
4.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   28.089s   +0.787s   [7/10]   282km/h
5.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   28.210s   +0.908s   [8/10]   278km/h
6.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   28.383s   +1.081s   [8/11]   280km/h
7.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   28.402s   +1.100s   [7/10]   275km/h
8.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   28.526s   +1.224s   [10/10]   279km/h
9.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   28.669s   +1.367s   [9/9]   280km/h
10.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   28.703s   +1.401s   [8/10]   282km/h
11.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   28.823s   +1.521s   [7/10]   281km/h
12.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   28.968s   +1.666s   [9/10]   277km/h

Qualifying 1:   
13.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   27.967s   280km/h   
14.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   27.979s   280km/h   
15.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   28.015s   278km/h   
16.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   28.103s   281km/h   
17.   Mika Kallio   FIN   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   28.285s   274km/h   
18.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   28.404s   276km/h   
19.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   28.444s   280km/h   
20.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   28.625s   280km/h   
21.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   28.659s   278km/h   
22.   Alex Rins   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   1m   29.504s   281km/h   
23.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   29.578s   275km/h   
24.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   30.028s   277km/h

[kopfjäger]

http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/263866/1/vinales-now-its-clear-where-the-limits-are.html

[kopfjäger]

Pole lap

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2017/07/01/marquez-s-pole-winning-lap/233980

[koko64]

Two young roosters, sooner or later..

[kopfjäger]

Great race for Jonas. MM makes it 9 in a row I believe. The Ducati riders cooked their tires relatively quickly it seemed. My boy  

[ducpainter]

8

[kopfjäger]

"Towards the end of the race I struggled because the performance of the tyre dropped off suddenly and quite a lot"

Dovi

[koko64]

And Marky Marc leads the championship going into the summer break. That's four different championship leaders over the last 4 or 5 races. 10 points covering the top four. This year's been a cracker.