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Reporting in. Truck is still awesome. I should hit 100,000 miles in the next month or so.
Turns out plugs are scheduled for replacement at 45-50k. Since I've never done it I ordered in some ford plugs and got after it.
The oem plugs were at like .041. Recommended is .027 which is what I gapped them to. Much smoother idle.
Side note, the coil packs plugs have a plastic lock to keep them from coming loose and shutting the cylinder down.
On the first one slid the lock back and worked on the tab to release the second lock that would allow the plug to pull back.
That tab is designed to push not pull. I had more give in the pull direction and promptly broke the latch. It's very fragile.
I ended up putting super glue on the broken hoop and slipped it back into the connector where at least one of the two legs stuck. Maybe both.
I think the plug would stay in place without the latch but I didn't want to chance it.
So far so good but I've only driven 1/8 mile so far.
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Those coil pack plugs are very fragile and have been that way on Fords for over 20+ years. I recall them being an issue on my 2000 Crown Vic which used the same coil packs as the 98's.
OEM Spark Plugs are NGK Laser Iridiums. The 3.5L EcoBoost (Gen 1, Gen 1 transverse, Gen 2, Gen 2 HO) use 1 heat range hotter than the 2.7/3.0 EcoBoost spark plugs. So if you ever wanted cold plugs, you can get the Ford Racing 3.5L EcoBoost cold plugs (which are NGK Laser Iridiums in the heat range same as the 2.7/3.0 stock plugs) or the NGK Laser Iridiums. Don't go to Ford and buy plugs for the 2.7/3.0 because they will hand you the 3.5 EcoBoost "hotter" plugs. Everything's been superseded.
Getting an OBDLink MX+ or EX with FORScan is the single most useful tool you will want. With the extended license you can turn off the horn honk when you close the door with the engine running, etc...
When EcoBoost runs properly, everything is great. When something goes bad, it really goes bad like random misfires.
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Quote from: metroplex on May 10, 2022, 05:34:17 AM
Those coil pack plugs are very fragile and have been that way on Fords for over 20+ years. I recall them being an issue on my 2000 Crown Vic which used the same coil packs as the 98's.
OEM Spark Plugs are NGK Laser Iridiums. The 3.5L EcoBoost (Gen 1, Gen 1 transverse, Gen 2, Gen 2 HO) use 1 heat range hotter than the 2.7/3.0 EcoBoost spark plugs. So if you ever wanted cold plugs, you can get the Ford Racing 3.5L EcoBoost cold plugs (which are NGK Laser Iridiums in the heat range same as the 2.7/3.0 stock plugs) or the NGK Laser Iridiums. Don't go to Ford and buy plugs for the 2.7/3.0 because they will hand you the 3.5 EcoBoost "hotter" plugs. Everything's been superseded.
Getting an OBDLink MX+ or EX with FORScan is the single most useful tool you will want. With the extended license you can turn off the horn honk when you close the door with the engine running, etc...
When EcoBoost runs properly, everything is great. When something goes bad, it really goes bad like random misfires.
Good info. FWIW it is still running great in I am at 125,000 mi. I did get the setup to fiddle with the truck with forscan and used it to activate the integral trailer brake controller. While it was in there I managed to find the spot to shut off that stupid honk honk lol. That was a good move.
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Mine never honked.
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Quote from: ducpainter on May 12, 2022, 02:53:23 PM
Mine never honked.
Somebody was in there with forscan before you bought it. The honk is annoying.
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Quote from: Monsterlover on May 12, 2022, 02:58:54 PM
Somebody was in there with forscan before you bought it. The honk is annoying.
Yep! This^ Even the dealer knows the honk is annoying as they rarely close the door fully while the engine is on. All of my neighbors have the honk and they don't seem to be bothered or care to annoy others when they run the engine in the morning at o dark hundred. "Honk"
No idea what Ducpainter has, but maybe it was a police interceptor as they have a few features disabled by default (or enabled by default).
FORScan came in handy. I disabled TPMS on my Fusion Sport because one sensor died and Discount Tire refused to replace it unless I bought new tires (waiting to wear them out, no rush on my part).
I retrofitted remote start via Ford VSS with FORScan for my 2018 Explorer. Lots of useful things! If you own a Ford/Lincoln and like to work on it or perform maintenance, FORScan is mandatory like sockets and ratchets!
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I have a '15 3.5l F-150.
I used Forscan to install and activate the factory trailer brake module.
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Quote from: ducpainter on May 12, 2022, 03:53:18 PM
I have a '15 3.5l F-150.
I used Forscan to install and activate the factory trailer brake module.
I did this as well a couple years ago. Then found out uhaul trailers use surge brakes.
So I'm at 153,000 now and things are still doing well. I still love the truck.
I threw $3800 at it yesterday at the Ford dealer.
Oil change
State inspection
Front and rear diff fluid change
Transfer case fluid change
Transmission filter and fluid
Four tires
Brake service to pass state inspection- apparently I had one caliper doing most of the work.
Parking brake parts needed to pass state as well.
Still cheaper than a payment on another one.
Here's to another 150k
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172,000 and we're at the end of my ownership. Had a cel for one of the cats and I've been doing way too much reading about failing cam phasers and what that cost to replace.
Phasers and cats would cost me what the truck booked at so I traded it in.
I was able to get the cel to go away by replacing the downstream O2 sensor and the light stayed off.
I never had a major problem with that truck and I have to think the fact that I maintained it will helped that.
The replacement: 2022 F150 lariat. Same as my last one just newer. I figured it would be the same as my 2015 for the most part but it's way nicer and I thought my 15 was nice.
Went with the 2.7 Ecoboost this time so my only main worry is the 10r80 trans. An extended warranty isn't very expensive so I'll pick that up and not worry about it.
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Thank you! Love it so far
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I have just slightly less than 110K on mine.
I can't afford to replace it, so
I hope it hangs n as long as I
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The replacement: 2022 F150 lariat. Same as my last one just newer. I figured it would be the same as my 2015 for the most part but it's way nicer and I thought my 15 was nice.
Went with the 2.7 Ecoboost this time so my only main worry is the 10r80 trans. An extended warranty isn't very expensive so I'll pick that up and not worry about it.
On the 2020-up 2.7, they changed it so it runs a wet oil pump belt. It's like a Ducati timing belt, except it is soaked in hot engine oil and as it wears down, the rubber floats around in the oil system. There's a class action going on for the 1.0 3-cyl EcoBoost for its wet oil pump belt. The 2.7/5.0 both use the welt belt, only in the F-150 made after 2020 which is still rather new, but is also found in the 3.0 for 2020-up (same engine as the 2.7), so your Bronco and Ranger Raptors have this as well. That's not to mention the faulty C-D-F drum for the 10R60/10R80 from 2017 and beyond. Ford hasn't fixed this problem permanently and gaslights everyone into thinking it is a software issue. THe Mustang 5.0 still runs a direct drive oil pump.
There are also reports of cam phaser failures on the newer 2.7/3.0 as well. Not as prevalent as the 3.5 Gen I and Gen II but still failures.
The original 2.7 from 2015-2019 and 3.0 from 2017-2019 (and out to 2020 for transverse applications) still use the chain for the oil pump.
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