Valencia MotoGP 🇪🇸 (spoiled)

[kopfjäger]

[ducpainter]

The team said.........IT’S A SUGGESTION and what they/we see on TV may not be what’s actually going on. They are racing, they know better. Dovi said he was being helped by Jorge. Dovi said that, not me or any other internet expert. I tend to listen to him. Maybe I should listen to you instead. 

[cough]bullshit[cough]

[kopfjäger]

[cough]bullshit[cough]

Send them an email. I’m sure they’d love to hear your opinion. 

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/887337/1/ducati-s-dashboard-message-suggestion-not-order

[Mhanis]

When Lorenzo's crew was gesticulating wildly to the pit board that clearly said "-1" as if to say "We have put it on here for a second time", it sure didn't look like they were "suggesting" he drop back.

What is more likely; for Ducati to come out after the race and say "Lorenzo disobeyed a team order for the second time" or "It was just a suggestion, all is good"? Just because all involved parties SAID it doesn't make it true. It just didn't LOOK to me like he was ignoring a suggestion at the time, it sure looked like the team expected him to yield the position.

I'll listen to what the involved parties say after the fact but that still doesn't change my mind in regards to what my eyes saw during the race.

Either way, still a dickhead.

Mark

[Grampa]

I blame Russian meddling.

[ducpainter]

When Lorenzo's crew was gesticulating wildly to the pit board that clearly said "-1" as if to say "We have put it on here for a second time", it sure didn't look like they were "suggesting" he drop back.

What is more likely; for Ducati to come out after the race and say "Lorenzo disobeyed a team order for the second time" or "It was just a suggestion, all is good"? Just because all involved parties SAID it doesn't make it true. It just didn't LOOK to me like he was ignoring a suggestion at the time, it sure looked like the team expected him to yield the position.

I'll listen to what the involved parties say after the fact but that still doesn't change my mind in regards to what my eyes saw during the race.

Either way, still a dickhead.

Mark

Maybe you can figure a way to explain that to kopf.

[ducpainter]

Knock it off Joel.

[duccarlos]

Either way, still a dickhead.

And this is the most important point. We spent 2 pages arguing about the level of dickheadedness.

[kopfjäger]

I blame Russian meddling.

[Blackout]

Jorge blamed it on his helmet liner sagging over his eyes. 

[kopfjäger]

The boys tested at Valencia hoy.

Valentino Rossi and Alvaro Bautista both walked away from big accidents just after midday, but Bautista - who took a bang to his back after a possible technical issue - did not return.

Suzuki team-mates Andrea Iannone and Alex Rins did not test today due to a stomach virus....

1. ^6 Maverick Vinales SPA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 30.189s
2. Ë...1 Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1) 1m 30.389s +0.200s
3. Ë...1 Marc Marquez SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 30.501s +0.312s
4. ^4 Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 30.519s +0.330s
5. Ë...2 Jack Miller AUS Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 30.635s +0.446s
6. Ë...2 Aleix Espargaro SPA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 30.756s +0.567s
7. Ë...2 Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17/18) 1m 30.850s +0.661s
8. Ë...2 Jorge Lorenzo SPA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17/18) 1m 31.059s +0.870s
9. = Pol Espargaro SPA Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 31.166s +0.977s
10. = Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.259s +1.070s
11. = Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 31.328s +1.139s
12. = Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 31.415s +1.226s
13. = Tito Rabat SPA Reale Avintia (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 31.673s +1.484s
14. = Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac (Desmosedici GP17/18) 1m 31.721s +1.532s
15. = Scott Redding GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 32.075s +1.886s
16. = Karel Abraham CZE Aspar Ducati (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 32.445s +2.256s
17. = Takumi Takahashi JPN LCR Honda (RC213V)* 1m 32.723s +2.534s
18. = Franco Morbidelli ITA EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 32.762s +2.573s
19. = Takaaki Nakagami JPN EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 33.569s +3.380s
20. = Xavier Simeon BEL Reale Avintia (Desmosedici GP16)* 1m 34.242s +4.053s

[Grampa]

Twas a brilliant move by Jorge. It has all the Monday morning throttle jockeys talking, which will do nothing but drive up motogp.com subscriptions and ticket sales for next year. Everyone love to have somebody to hate, and now Ducati has them a real live bad boy/black hat/asshole. Now'wa days good press and bad press is all the same.... press. If people are talking, that means they are engaged, and not doing something else.

The only bad thing that can come from this, is technology that allows the box to remotely control bike maps.

[ducpainter]

Twas a brilliant move by Jorge. It has all the Monday morning throttle jockeys talking, which will do nothing but drive up motogp.com subscriptions and ticket sales for next year. Everyone love to have somebody to hate, and now Ducati has them a real live bad boy/black hat/asshole. Now'wa days good press and bad press is all the same.... press. If people are talking, that means they are engaged, and not doing something else.

The only bad thing that can come from this, is technology that allows the box to remotely control bike maps.

...or a remote kill switch.

[koko64]

Jack likes the Ducati.

[ducpainter]

Jack likes the Ducati.

It doesn't suffer from his two main complaints about the Honda. It's stable on the brakes, and it puts the power down coming out of the corner.