696 Termis and TPS

[maxial]

Greetings all!

My name is Tim and I am new to the forum.  I just purchased a 696 with the Termis already installed and I had a couple of questions.  How can you tell of the dealer has reset the TPS?  I noticed that the initial throttle input is not very smooth.  It's almost like there is too much throttle with just a small input and it's kind of jerky.  I'm not sure if this is a characteristic of thse bikes or the TPS needs adjusting.  Any feedback is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Tim

[gearhead]

 make sure the coil wires arent reversed as thats all that was matter with mine and it behaved the same as yours.

[maxial]

The dealer said it was done when before I picked it up.  Does anyone know the correct routing of the coil wires so I can check it?

Thanks,
Tim

[gearhead]

 Sent you a private message.

[R2]

I read a post on here saying you need to get the TPS reset, which was contrary to what my understanding was. So I called a local Ducati yesterday and asked the service department if I needed them to reset the TPS on the 696 if I installed the Termis. They said yeah bring it in at 8:30 this morning and it should only take about 20 min. I took it in and when it was finished they said what they did was reenter the parameters and they told me they can't really reset the TPS, this is the first one where the bike adjusts itself. I think they said the only thing they can really adjust are some air intake screws. I mentioned to them that is why I called yesterday to see if I needed to bring it in. So it ended up costing me $27, 2 hours of my time and a gallon of gas, for pretty much nothing. I'd be a little pissed off if I actually had something else to do, besides sleep in.

So I would advise against bringing it in to get the TPS reset. If anyone else brought in their 696 and the mechanic told them something different, I would love to hear what they said.

[sfarchie]

How many miles do you have on it? I don't have Termis, but initially the bike just ran choppy at low speeds. Now that I have 530 miles on, it runs a little smoother. Even the shifting and mileage has improved, so perhaps it just needs some breaking in?

BTW, I got CRG adjustable levers and it made a gigantimous difference! I would recommend these to anyone with a 696.

[causeofkaos]

gigantimous wow what a word i like that one, is that like 10 ginormous'

[Craig Thomas]

How many miles do you have on it? I don't have Termis, but initially the bike just ran choppy at low speeds. Now that I have 530 miles on, it runs a little smoother. Even the shifting and mileage has improved, so perhaps it just needs some breaking in?

BTW, I got CRG adjustable levers and it made a gigantimous difference! I would recommend these to anyone with a 696.

Ditto on this!

I went for a 125 mile ride yesterday.  ODO now has 496 miles.  Half way trough the ride, things got real smooth.  Throttle input was improved, popping on deceleration decreased, and shifting wasn't as notchy.  Give it a few more miles, Buddy!

(2009 M696 with the DP Termi Kit)

[R2]

How many miles do you have on it? I don't have Termis, but initially the bike just ran choppy at low speeds. Now that I have 530 miles on, it runs a little smoother. Even the shifting and mileage has improved, so perhaps it just needs some breaking in?

I've got about 3000 miles on it. 250+ with the termis. It's running great, it just seemed to be popping alot when I decelerate so I thought maybe I needed to have it adjusted.

I mainly posted this because when I did a search for 696 TPS I saw posts saying it needed to be reset. Figured I could provide some info, and save some people a little money.

[Howie]

I read a post on here saying you need to get the TPS reset, which was contrary to what my understanding was. So I called a local Ducati yesterday and asked the service department if I needed them to reset the TPS on the 696 if I installed the Termis. They said yeah bring it in at 8:30 this morning and it should only take about 20 min. I took it in and when it was finished they said what they did was reenter the parameters and they told me they can't really reset the TPS, this is the first one where the bike adjusts itself. I think they said the only thing they can really adjust are some air intake screws. I mentioned to them that is why I called yesterday to see if I needed to bring it in. So it ended up costing me $27, 2 hours of my time and a gallon of gas, for pretty much nothing. I'd be a little pissed off if I actually had something else to do, besides sleep in.

So I would advise against bringing it in to get the TPS reset. If anyone else brought in their 696 and the mechanic told them something different, I would love to hear what they said.

What is done on a TPS reset on your bike is not an adjustment the TPS, but it is using the scan tool to set parameters into the computer.  If this step is not done the ECU does not accurately know where closed throttle, open throttle and points between are and fueling will be off.  This is a very neccessary step.

[Gus Duc]

It's my understanding that on the new gen 696's & 1100's the ECU does it's own TPS reset everytime you start the bike.  If so, that's very cool

[R2]

What is done on a TPS reset on your bike is not an adjustment the TPS, but it is using the scan tool to set parameters into the computer.  If this step is not done the ECU does not accurately know where closed throttle, open throttle and points between are and fueling will be off.  This is a very neccessary step.

But if the parameters are the same for the stock and the termis, nothing changed, right? I rode for about 50 miles today when I left the dealership, it seems exactly the same to me. It should have been at least a little faster, I was $30 lighter.

[Howie]

It's my understanding that on the new gen 696's & 1100's the ECU does it's own TPS reset everytime you start the bike.  If so, that's very cool

You might be correct, different computer. 

But if the parameters are the same for the stock and the termis, nothing changed, right? I rode for about 50 miles today when I left the dealership, it seems exactly the same to me. It should have been at least a little faster, I was $30 lighter.

Did you get just exhaust or the Termi system with the DP computer?  If so, you needed set up unless Gus Duc is correct.  Even then, CO trim would probably need to be set.  Most bikes equipped with 5.9 computers needed TPS and CO trim set through the computer.  On earlier FI bikes TPS was set manually.

[desmoworks]

You can force the TPS to reset by turning the bike on/off 3 times in a row. You CANNOT touch the throttle or fast idle though or it will not reset and just revert back to the last time it had a correct reset. Otherwise it does reset itself normally - but just like when you force it - if you give any throttle or fast idle at all it will not.

We can also reset it with the DDS tool, but generally that is not needed. We haven't had to do it yet.

[booger]

You can force the TPS to reset by turning the bike on/off 3 times in a row. You CANNOT touch the throttle or fast idle though or it will not reset and just revert back to the last time it had a correct reset. Otherwise it does reset itself normally - but just like when you force it - if you give any throttle or fast idle at all it will not.

We can also reset it with the DDS tool, but generally that is not needed. We haven't had to do it yet.

Will this work for an 06 S2R? Doesn't it have a 5.9 ecu? Or is this just for the 696/1100 bikes? interesting