NASCAR Cheating??

[He Man]

In a sport where almost every car is identical, how could you find ways to cheat?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-gibbscheating&prov=ap&type=lgns


By sandbagging a dyno.  so everyone can think you are faster.

[Kopfjager]

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. If you get caught, youre not trying hard enough.

[NAKID]

Here's where I stand, I kind of understand their frustration. They bust their ass to make a good engine. They win some races because they did their job well, then NASCRAP comes in and tells the "You're too good, it's not fair to everyone else, so you have to cut HP".

Piss Off...

[red baron]

Gotta give them credit for being crafty.

Wouldn't it have been easier to modify the linkage?

[teddy037.2]

+1, I'm w/chris. if you can make power w/in the rules, you just have a better builder.

[Kopfjager]

Here's where I stand, I kind of understand their frustration. They bust their ass to make a good engine. They win some races because they did their job well, then NASCRAP comes in and tells the "You're too good, it's not fair to everyone else, so you have to cut HP".

Piss Off...

F1 did the same thing to Honda back in the 60's. That is one of the reasons they left, (I believe). This type of thing goes on in all Motorsports, not just NASCAR.

[CairnsDuc]

Gotta give them credit for being crafty.

Wouldn't it have been easier to modify the linkage?

I assume the Car was taken to the Dyno straight after the race (or to a location that the team has no access to) Nascar would not have allowed the car to be touched or adjusted straight after the race, so while straight after the race they would have time to quickly shove a magnet on a pedal by a team member, as opposed to lifting the bonnet and breaking out the tools to adjust a linkage.

Not to Dissimilar to Park Ferme in Moto GP, 2-3 staff are allowed to assist the rider off the bike, put the bike on stands and cover the tyres, if they touch or adjust any part of the bike, the team is disqualified.

[SP3]

Here's where I stand, I kind of understand their frustration. They bust their ass to make a good engine. They win some races because they did their job well, then NASCRAP comes in and tells the "You're too good, it's not fair to everyone else, so you have to cut HP".

Piss Off...

Welcome to 15 years ago (or more) in nascrap. It is ALL about the show and NONE about the competition, ie, sport.

[Big Troubled Bear]

Such is life for a race team

[Le Pirate]

Here's where I stand, I kind of understand their frustration. They bust their ass to make a good engine. They win some races because they did their job well, then NASCRAP comes in and tells the "You're too good, it's not fair to everyone else, so you have to cut HP".

Piss Off...

+1

penalized for being good.

[DucPete]

+1

penalized for being good.

Man.  Talking about Nascar here is like talking about Politics.  People sensationalize this stuff. 

Quote from the SI atricle.

"Lee White, president of Toyota Racing Development, said......I couldn't believe it was happening because it's clearly defined in the entry forms that you don't do this sort of thing."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/racing/08/17/nationwide.cheating.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

Not because NASCAR arbitrarily thought their team was too good and decided to level the field. 

[Duck-Stew]

Look up Smokey Yunick.   

[Grampa]

only in america.

make all the cars the same....

make them all suuuuuper safe.....

increase the size of the rulebook...daily....

increase the size of those who enforce the rules.... daily....


make it fair.



suck the fun out of it.

[derby]

Look up Smokey Yunick.   

that was the first thing i tought when i saw the article...

[Monsterlover]

+1

NASCAR hated that guy