installing frame sliders

[jstanton]

I have a 2008 M695.  I just got frame sliders from SpeedyMoto and I want to put them on.  The local dealership will do it but they want way too much money [/i] (what a surprise!).  I'm new to bikes but not to working, so I already have a fairly complete set of tools (socket set, box wrenches, a really old but good Sears torque wrench) and I'm reasonably handy so it seems to me I ought to be able to do the job myself.  I'm about to buy a bullpup from Cycleworks (with the money I'm not giving the dealership) to lift the bike, but here's my question:
There's no "threaded holes" in the swingarms for the swingarm spools, but I notice that the rear axle is completely hollow.  So I'm wondering, can I just run a solid steel rod ... of the appropriate diameter ... through it and lift the bike that way?  And if so, will the bullpup accomodate that kind of arrangement?  I know this all probably sounds inane, but the store people didn't seem to know too many options and so I'm kind of on my own here and naturally I don't want to damage anything.  Can anyone help me here?  Any advice will be appreciated.

2008 M695 dark, ridden daily, pretty much regardless.  Some decals removed, custom license plate holder in progress.  Scorpion Exo  helmet, AlpineStars gloves and vented boots, Frank Thomas mesh jacket, Dianese back protector.  Completed BRC rider's course.  Big smile!

[jdubbs32584]

This is supposed to be a how to thread, meaning you post up instructions on how to do things. I would suggest moving your question to the Accessories and Mods forum.

My ex installed my frame sliders on my old 07 695 so I'll see if he can post up some suggestions there.

[Ducnial]

Hopefully the admins will move this to Tech or Mods.   To answer your question.

Yea, you could run a metal shaft throgh the axle and using a spooled type stand  and lift it.  I think you are refering to a "Pitbull" rear stand.   Actually Pitbull makes a dual type rear stand that supports both spooled and non-spooled swing arms.  The 695 is a non-spooled swingarm sits on rubber coated pegs mounted on the stand.  I had one for my former 695 and it worked flawless. 

Dont really need one though to put sliders on.  While on the side stand simply remove the nut side of the engine mount tie bolt. Drive the old tie bolt back an inch or so using some sort of make shift drift pin.  Next put one of the sliders on the new tie bolt and pilot the assembly where you drove the old one back. Tap it through until the the slider stops on the frame boss pushing the old one out.   No need to support the engine or worry about it dropping down and loosing alignment.  Torque everything up spec.  60Nm or 45 ftlbs.

Good Luck.

[He Man]

Your number 5 of people (who im pointing out)who dont know the difference between "how to" and "how do i" Maybe if you would of panned your eyes below and saw all the MOVED threads and then all the "how to _____"

Some people cant put A and B together. you can move your own threads too. You dont need a mod to do it. But now that you ask the question of how do i install frame sliders, ill ask you the same thing that ive asked everyone else, once you find out how to do it, can you post up a how to so others can see? With pictures.

["One-K-Duc"]

What Ducnial said - this is honestly one of the easiest things to do in your garage - I was worried about supporting the engine etc...  but read a couple of threads here, went out and it literally too 10 minutes - half of that was fiddling with my less than high quality torque wrench to make sure I had it adjusted correctly.  Once I removed the nut for the stock engine rod, I simply tapped the speedy moto rod into the hole and it followed the stock rad through - tap lightly and you will be amazed how easy and quick the stock rod will slide out.

[Duc Fever]

+1 it is super easy and definately no need to lift the bike.  I put one on my wifes M695 in about 10 min. as well.

[CairnsDuc]

I was also like you, a bit unsure, bit I figured I'll give it a go, and the speedymoto instructions were also easy to follow, I took my time and double checked every step of the instructions (this was the first mod on my S2R & only the 2nd day of ownership)

Didn't need stands (Although now I have purchased a front and rear stand) 20 mins start to finish including clean and tidy up, putting tools away and standing back feeling proud of myself for not destroying anything.

Give it a go! 

And if you get stuck, Don't panic, jump back online and ask questions.

[DrNo08]

I installed cycle cat sliders on my 695 and it was on it's side stand.  It was easy after I did it.  The fear comes from thinking you'll mess something up but you really can't screw this job up.  I'd recommend using some medium strength loc-tite on the slider bolts to make sure they stay good and secure.

[zLoki]

I installed cycle cat sliders on my 695 and it was on it's side stand.  It was easy after I did it.  The fear comes from thinking you'll mess something up but you really can't screw this job up.  I'd recommend using some medium strength loc-tite on the slider bolts to make sure they stay good and secure.

Just did Motovation sliders on a M696.  easy as pie.  Do recommend doing it on the side stand and not using a stand like a PitBull.  Tried with the pit bull and the alignment was a bit off.  Took it off the stand and fixed itself.  Took about 15 min, including clean up.

 [moto]

[DarkStaR]

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I'd recommend using some medium strength loc-tite on the slider bolts to make sure they stay good and secure.

I would actually recommend against using loc-tite on the slider hardware.

On the last set of cc frame protectors i had, I had to use a pipe wrench to removes the puck from the mount.

I now use anti-seize on those bolts.

[DrNo08]

I would actually recommend against using loc-tite on the slider hardware.

On the last set of cc frame protectors i had, I had to use a pipe wrench to removes the puck from the mount.

I now use anti-seize on those bolts.

Here's the site I used as a guide.

http://www.fokust.com/gallery/CC_sliders

[DarkStaR]

Here's the site I used as a guide.

http://www.fokust.com/gallery/CC_sliders

And? 

If you don't ever plan on re-torquing the engine mounts, or removing/reinstalling the sliders, then go right ahead and use loc-tite. 

I'm just posting FHE.

[NekkedChic]

Hopefully the admins will move this to Tech or Mods.   To answer your question.

Yea, you could run a metal shaft throgh the axle and using a spooled type stand  and lift it.  I think you are refering to a "Pitbull" rear stand.   Actually Pitbull makes a dual type rear stand that supports both spooled and non-spooled swing arms.  The 695 is a non-spooled swingarm sits on rubber coated pegs mounted on the stand.  I had one for my former 695 and it worked flawless. 

Dont really need one though to put sliders on.  While on the side stand simply remove the nut side of the engine mount tie bolt. Drive the old tie bolt back an inch or so using some sort of make shift drift pin.  Next put one of the sliders on the new tie bolt and pilot the assembly where you drove the old one back. Tap it through until the the slider stops on the frame boss pushing the old one out.   No need to support the engine or worry about it dropping down and loosing alignment.  Torque everything up spec.  60Nm or 45 ftlbs.

Good Luck.

Guess what Santa brought....at end of install on 09 696 Spec torque same still? Tks!

[DucatiTorrey]

i have a 696, and like the look of the motovation frame sliders much more than the speedymoto "puck" style, yet it seems a lot of people are getting the puck, IMHO they are ugly, are they better or something? more $ too!

thanks

[mrplease]

yeah i agree with you! i can't stand the way the speedymoto sliders look either. the motovation ones look much better, though all sliders looks like ass in my opinion. i'm still debating on keeping mine on or selling them...

i have a 696, and like the look of the motovation frame sliders much more than the speedymoto "puck" style, yet it seems a lot of people are getting the puck, IMHO they are ugly, are they better or something? more $ too!

thanks