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FP1 (wet)

1.   Anthony West   AUS   Kawasaki Racing Team   (B)   1min   53.034   secs
2.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   (B)   1min   53.151   secs
3.   Casey Stoner   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   (B)   1min   53.190   secs
4.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   JiR Team Scot MotoGP   (M)   1min   53.704   secs
5.   John Hopkins USA   Kawasaki Racing Team   (B)   1min   53.715   secs
6.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B)   1min   53.771   secs
7.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   (M)   1min   53.850   secs
8.   Nicky Hayden USA   Repsol Honda Team   (M)   1min   53.931   secs
9.   Ben Spies   USA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B)   1min   54.297   secs
10.   Toni Elias SPA   Alice Team   (B)   1min   54.616   secs
11.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   (B)   1min   54.795   secs
12.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   (M)   1min   55.072   secs
13.   Shinya Nakano   JPN   San Carlo Honda Gresini   (B)   1min   55.074   secs
14.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Ducati Marlboro Team   (B)   1min   55.292   secs
15.   Colin Edwards USA   Tech 3 Yamaha   (M)   1min   55.731   secs
16.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Alice Team   (B)   1min   56.125   secs
17.   James Toseland   GBR   Tech 3 Yamaha   (M)   1min   56.271   secs
18.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B)   1min   56.345   secs
19.   Dani Pedrosa SPA   Repsol Honda Team   (B)   1min   56.851   secs

and casey did some superman'ing
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Sep/080912c.htm

It's wet?  Then I'm sorry, but there appears to be a typo.  You mispelled the name at the top of hte board.  It should read "Chris Vermeulen", not "Anthony West."  You can find Westy back in 28th place

Dani's first race weekend with Bridgestones and the track is kinda dry and kinda wet?  No wonder he's three seconds off the pace.

It's raining fairly heavily here in Chicago right now (ORD) so we'll see if it clears up for qualifying...

That, or he's still hurting. Or both.

FP2 (again raining)

1.   Anthony West   AUS   Kawasaki Racing Team   (B) 1min   54.274   secs
2.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B) 1min   55.032   secs
3.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   (B) 1min   55.067   secs
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   (B)   1min 55.425   secs
5.   Ben Spies   USA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B)   1min 55.869   secs
6.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   JiR Team Scot MotoGP   (M) 1min   56.225   secs
7.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   (M)   1min 56.313   secs
8.   Casey Stoner   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   (B)   1min 56.458   secs
9.   Dani Pedrosa SPA   Repsol Honda Team   (B)   1min 56.782   secs
10.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Ducati Marlboro Team   (B)   1min   57.534   secs
11.   John Hopkins USA   Kawasaki Racing Team   (B)   1min   58.335   secs
12.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   (M)   1min   58.382   secs
13.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Alice Team   (B)   1min   58.399   secs
14.   Nicky Hayden USA   Repsol Honda Team   (M)   1min   58.546   secs
15.   Colin Edwards USA   Tech 3 Yamaha   (M)   1min   58.600   secs
16.   Toni Elias SPA   Alice Team   (B)   1min   59.059   secs
17.   Shinya Nakano   JPN   San Carlo Honda Gresini   (B)   1min   59.092   secs
18.   James Toseland   GBR   Tech 3 Yamaha   (M)   1min   59.478   secs
19.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   (B)   1min   59.661   secs

So far this Indy GP has been a real disappointment.  The track just doesn't seem very interesting, especially in the wet.  Nice to have a race at the brickyard for sure, but so far I've just been bored.

Westy is trying to make a case for that third Kawi, eh?

it'll be kind of a bummer if the whole weekend rains like they say.. no one will really know who goes well on that track til next year.

Well, apparently Ike is headed for Indiana.  So, you just enjoy your sunday in the rain while I watch it live in 60 inches of HD splendor.  ;)

I'm with Daryl...51 inches of HD gloriousness coupled with my smoker spitting out hunks of steamin' meat all day long... [drink] [bacon]

yeah... i got nuthin... since that's exactly what i would say if i weren't going.  [roll] ;D

he always seems to shine in the wet.

...no pun intended.

for those of you with accounts:

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Best+images+of+MotoGP+FP2+in+Indianapolis

it was really effin wet.

just finished watching FP2....

those guys are nuts.

I'm on my way to Indy now, I'm in some tiny town in WV about 250-300 miles from the race.  I've been getting dumped on almost the whole way and been watching the weather carefully.

seems it's going to rain rae day according to noaa & weather.com.  I have thought you guys arelucky being dry but I hven't seen a GP race in person and wn't missthis regardless of weather or poor traaack design.

can't wait fr the race andwill post from my treo as i'm doingnow.  forgive my errors here, it's a    treo andiiiim drunk a outback steakhoue.

the combo of being shitfaced and typing on a cell phone makes that one of the best posts ive seen yet. good luck on the trips guys.

Wow, so you are a human after all. I don't suppose Derby is with you too? ;D

solo, meeting up with the DeVal guys when I get to indy today.

That will be me, too.

I cannot find it in the tv listing.  What time is it on?  Is it on See B.S?

Edit.

Found the other thread...  On Nothing But Crap.

I don't have the times 'cause I just watched it and they aren't posted yet, but:

1.  Rossi
2.  Stoner
3.  Lorenzo
4.  Hayden
5.  Spies

can't remember the rest, but DePuniet is up there and Edwards is too.

Hooray for Hayden and Spies tho.  I really want Hayden to beat the midget and I really want Spies to beat Hans Moleman and Grandpa.

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/2008/INP/MotoGP/QP

nicky's slides were effin dope.  [thumbsup]

Excuse my Southern Hemisphere ignorance but does it look like it will be a wet race?

Yes, Ike is supposed to be in town tomorrow, meaning the race will likely be taking place in a deluge of rain.

So, possible earlier start time, or even cancellation of the race tomorrow if the rain is too heavy.  What a cluster make the beast with two backs that would be for all the people that went out there.

Wanna know what's even more amazing than that?

Today's final qual session... RdP had the fastest lap for what seemed like about a third of the session.

blue skies and some clouds outside my indy hotel room right now... we'll see.

hoping....

i know it's IMS after all so none of this should be surprising but it's really odd/cool to see local newscasters talking about valentino etc.  :)

The broadcasters on British Eurosport commented how knowledgeable the US crowd was...

I think they were surprised.

considering they openly made fun of the names of the corners at Miller during wsbk, i bet they are surprised.

weird experience flying in here yesterday and having the plane be seemingly filled with GP fans.  same with the hotel, much moreso.  the Rizla team is in my hotel, as well as a 125 team, a bunch of journalists, etc..  every person in the bar last night was talking bikes and ignoring the football on tv.. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfpn4x_QPYU

What an exciting race.  [popcorn]

i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

i was excited and yelling at my computer screen. of course, i was pulling for nicky and hoping spies would put a move on stoner and dovi.  ;D

The new guy Lorentho did really well!  [roll] :o ;D

Kind of a bummer that two of the three races on national tv were wet.  Not the best show of waht its all about.

Fun race nonetheless.

Go Lorentho! [clap]

I was hoping that Spies would  podium

Heh, the guy was sure exercising his Castillian Spanish pronunciation.

What happened to #52?

When and where was this on TV? ???

That WAS a great race.  The conditions they were racing in were incredible.  I really thought Spies coulda taken Stoner and Dovi give a few more laps, but I was still incredibly happy with the results all across the board.

I'm REALLY hoping that this opens the eyes of some GP execs and gets Spies his damn ride for next year.

BTW, the 250 race was cancelled due to force majeure.

it was on nbc an hour ago. if you havne't already watched it, ya missed it.

You can catch the 250 race on Speed 6pm est.

250 race was cancelled due to nasty weather.

Damnit.  [bang]

Very anti-climatic finish....
YaY nicky, great to see him on the podium :)

CRaZY weather!!!!
the rain was heavy, but the wind was extreme!!!

I had a really good time regardless :)

Nicky showing new teammate Stoner how it's done.  Rossi on his tail providing a lot of pressure and the Kentucky Kid was cool as ice.  No Rossi mind-make the beast with two backs for Hayden.  Too bad it dried up for a bit and ate up his Michelins.

Rossi is still the man.  Loved watching him and Nicky run away with it.

Good to see Lorenzo back up front.  Glad to see Spies making a run for Stoner too.  Good race. 

Best of all Pedrobot and his 'stones were nowhere to be seen.

Me likey that race.  Hayden is soooo much better when there is limited traction.  I was loving it when he squared off turns or slide both wheels from the apex and drifted on out to the rumble strips.  I *really* hope he clicks with the Duc next year.

Casey looked pissed at the end of the race.  Wassup wit dat?

Someone better give Spies a damn ride.  I wanna see Elbowz in the dry on a bike that he's had some time with.  Mebbe he'll be good, mebbe he'll just be ok, mebbe he'll be awesome.  But I really wanna see what happens.

Why does that surprise you? 

Argh..I can't take these Americans announcers!  GO LORENTHO!!  [bang]


Very anti-climatic is right!!  The whole race seemed to be.  I didn't care for the track.  Maybe it's just because it was a slow-wet race?!      


Sounds like it was a good showing for DMF'ers at the race though!!   [thumbsup]

Too bad the conditions were rough but I'm sure the Hoosier Hooligans did it right!!   [evil]

Not sure exactly.  He didn't have the pace to hang with Rossi and Hayden, so he shoulda been ok to with that result.  And it's not like he got 9th or anything.  He picked up valuable points on Pedrosa and he's already said that he doesn't expect to catch Rossi for the title.  <shrug>  Whatever.  He's allowed.  I thought he had a fine, albeit not spectular race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seseo#Castilian_lisp

http://spanish.about.com/cs/qa/a/q_lisp.htm

GODDAMIT!  Why does everyone (on here and on the WERA BBS) get pissed at that?  That IS how it's pronounced.   I also don't know why people are surprised by the pronunciation, you had to have heard it 1000x on the regular speed/motogp.com broadcasts at some point right?

I found that somewhat comical just due to the nature of the recent happenings.  You can't expect immediate success with no testing time, but its amusing none the less.

yup...

just like xaus being pronounced "chowse".

easy trigger.  Speed announcers call him "Jorge" or mispronounce it LorenZo. [thumbsup]

speed uses the dorna-employeed announcers. are you sure you're not thinking of fox?

Easy buddy. You're wrong.  Speed uses the motogp.com broadcasters, but thanks for playing  [thumbsup]

What a crazy race...that weather was nuts! Awesome to see Nicky doing well..his slides were bad ass. 
[thumbsup]


I could swear I've heard the Speed (yes, Dorna) announcers pronounce it LorenZo as well. I KNOW the Eurosport feed annoucers pronounce it with a Z...I just watched the Laguna race to check.

Not saying Lorentho isn't correct, just that I've heard LorenZo a lot.

nick pronounces the "z", mark swaps back and forth.

Thanks for the lesson buddy!  [roll]


Thank you! 

anytime, homeslick.  [roll]

Except for the fact that he's incorrect about it. 

If any of you have a motogp.com subscription, please feel free to watch any of the prior races and you'll hear it pronounced Loren-tho about 1 trillion times.  Not that it doesn't ever get mispronounced, but I'm just surprised that so many people (not only here) have torn into the announcers for mispronouncing it when in fact they were correct.

Who gives a shit how its pronounced.  [roll]

evidently the guy banging his head on the wall.  ;D

Haha indeed. 

Anyhow, at the end of the day, I think that Indianapolis as a city and IMS as a venue really represented the US well and it looks like something that will be very positive for the exposure of MotoGP and motorcycle racing in general, so this is a great thing.

I'm sure we'll get some reports from the peeps who were out there, but all in all I think it went pretty well considering Ike was torturing the riders throughout the race(s).

They need to put some speakers in the infield.  If you were not in Ducati Island you could hardly hear the announcers.  But all in all a great event.  The staff and local police did an incredible job moving traffic to boot,  I'm excited to be going again next year.
The drive up to Wi sucked though I94 was flooded so they "routed" the traffic.  7.25 hours later I was done with what should have been an easy 5 hour trip.  But from the looks of it, and what I heard at the gas station the traffic going south was taking an extra 4 hours to route.

 [bang]  < That is for the commentators in general.  [roll]

That sounds pretty great, especially considering mother nature.  The IMS peeps really know how to handle their shit.  They had kiosks in the airport handing out info and red bulls, they had the street signs, they had promotion everywhere. It also seems that since they've dealt with enormous crowds tons of times, they handled the traffic well (which is something Laguna is only now learning how to do).

I really hope I can make it out there next year, it sounds great and it seems like it has the infrastructure to handle such an event.  [thumbsup]

it's "easy" to handle 100k people in a venue capable of holding 400k.  :P

great job valentino  [thumbsup], it was great to see nicki running in the front. Announcers sucked ass but was interesting that they put the whole REPSOL fued between nicki and predrosa's camp on blast. "The Wall"

Would the two of you make up your make the beast with two backsing minds? [cheeky]

Daryl ranted that he didn't understand why people were jumping on he NBC guy.  I gave a possible reason.  *I* didn't jump on the NBC guy.  I didn't say SPEED *ALWAYS* mispronounces it.  I simply stated that I've observed while watching SPEED's coverage all year that they mispronounce it at times, and call him by his first name at other times.

I beg to differ.

Leaving from the infield, you had no choice but to take a left onto 16th.

Then all of the cross streets were blocked-off for a couple of miles, keeping you from turning to double back.

With no signage to give any indication of how to get back to the west, it took forever winding through side streets to get back to my hotel.

That's how traffic has moved in Indianapolis after races for over 10 years that I know of.

Trust me, if moves well...............

IMS is one of the premier, if not the nicest racing facilities in the world. Everything there is top notch.

I thought they even did well considering mother nature wasn't too friendly..........


Must be something about inaugural races at IMS the past two times.

The first F1 race was cold and wet

Wow...

Casey finished. ;D

[evil]

Yeah - what is it with that track's layout?  OK, I wasn't there and have only seen the diagrams but it looks unimaginatively tyro.....Was there a theory there or did they route it through 'available space' around the golf course.....perhaps, for 2009, they'll just lay out a course in midtown Manhattan so it'll be closer to the eastern half of the US population....

 [evil] [evil]

Hmmm....schedule a race during hurricane season and then wonder why it rained....

and upright too  [thumbsup]

I think Casey actually learned something from his failures earlier this year.  His candor about him not having confidence and putting his performance issues on himself was refreshing.  I'm not lining up to hop on his bandwagon, but it was nice to see that side of him at least.

I think it was designed by a consulting firm at least that was the rumor when the talk of a race in Indy began.

i think the guy that asked the question may not know it's the indy f1 circuit reversed with some "slight" modifications.

So what exactly did I record?  [laugh]


That was a strange race, but great. I was pulling for Nicky the whole time.

Somebody tell me why Ben Spies doenst have  Loris Capparossis' seat in 2009?

What was up with Ralph and Kevin at the very beginning of the broadcast. Didnt they realize they were on wide screen 16:9 hi def? They were standing way too close together face to face. They looked like they were gonna start making out at any second. Even my wife thought it was a bit ghey. I think Kevin got lessons on how to talk on TV. He did a much better job than he ever has before.

ah yeah, right.

Yea a few people that need to go against the grain but the other 95,950 fans get out fast.  I wish other sporting events would take notes.

he missed T1 in about lap 5 or 6.. there was paved run-off that took him out to the oval so he didn't go down.



could hear 'em fine from where i was... ;)

edit: and actually, come to think of it, that was not such a good thing.  greg white as infield announcer is 10x worse than greg white as tv announcer.  PAINFUL.



coming in, yes.  leaving, that was not my experience.



politics, history, etc.  Rizla royally screwed up on that one.  Hope he spanks them on the Honda repeatedly next year.

... and where were you?

you have to understand all the ppl sitting in the paddock area were leaving going 16th west
this i done this way so traffic get distributed on I465, a bit of all direction ,if they would have let us go west coming from the IMS underpass we would have been sitting in a traffic jam for hrs.

penthouse A, at the end of the front straight.. right about where they started braking.  facing all the garages etc.

Classic Rossi and Colin:

Q: Question for Valentino. There's been very many disappointed girls because you said if you won the race you were going to run naked down the home straight.

HAYDEN: Yes, yes, I do remember, also. (Laughter)

Q: I just wonder what happened after that Thursday comment.

ROSSI: The idea was from Colin (Edwards), I remember. (Laughter) And Friday night they say to me, and they say maybe it's better for everybody that if I win my umbrella girl get naked on the straight. (Laughter)

MODERATOR: Another one here.

MODERATOR: Thank you. Third place, ladies and gentlemen, his second podium in succession, Jorge Lorenzo. Jorge, first time you've been on the podium in the wet your whole career.

JORGE LORENZO: Yeah, it is true. It is true because also in the Spanish Championship I haven't got any podium, European Championship, also, no podium in the rain. And I think in the Balioto Championship, also, no podium. (Laughter)

I was so, personally I didn't want to race before the race because I was so safe in my motor home and so hot with Hector that I thought I prefer not to race.


What the hell is he talking about?  ???

I'm not sure if you're serious but if so...

Well, his english isn't quite there yet.  But, he's alluding to the fact that he was warm and cozy and safe in his motorhome (with his manager I believe) and that the weather was so bad, and since he's not very good in inclement weather, that they thought it would be better to stay in.  He was trying to make a joke.

...his ex-teammate, hector barbera.

No Greg White..... I WIN!

duh! 

So was I.  [laugh]

He really needs to work on his English!

(It'll cut down alot on bad jokes made by morons like me)

I agree, leaving got me completely screwed up.  If I would have just waited inside the track for 60 minutes, I could have got back to my campground much much easier.


You must not know Indy or the Midwest very well.  The layout is what it is, there is limited space due to it being INSIDE the oval.

And typically, we do not get affected by hurricanes, we are 1500+ miles away from Ocean.  If no rain is a requirement for a booking date, you would have to pick February, that is probably the only month it doesn't rain around here.

***

Overall, I had a great time.  Mario did a great job with the Project Mugello and HH crowd.  Ducati did a A+ job on the DOC area.  Tent camping next to the track was a fricking riot, and totally made up for riding ~20 hours in rain and wind over the weekend.  I plan to go back next year, and meet up with the guys we camped next to.

mitt

Being that the speedway is located in a neighborhood and typically accommodates crowds up to 450,000 people, they have their routes down pretty good.

you have to understand all of the parking lots drain towards a different exit.

You either go towards 465 on the West, 65 to the East (via 16th street and 30th street exits), or towards 38th on the north via Georgetown Road.

They clothes all N-S bound streets on 16th street to prevent people from clogging up neighborhood roads and screwing up with the general flow of traffic from the surrounding lots.


The best way to leave the Speedway..............wait around. Don't leave quickly. Hang out and then leave.

We left about 2 hours after the GP Race and sat in no traffic.

Wish I would have known...

Oh well, next year  ;D

mitt

i thought it was very well run

being from Canada i had no idea what i was in for

it was perfect (except for the Hurricane) getting to the oval was so easy and also leaveing was well thought out suree  had no idea whre i was going after the race but the cops were so hlpfull as to wheere to turn to get back on Rockville

a true no brainer will be back next year

He didn't know that......

i thought they handled the traffic well... if you have ever been to laguna, you would not be complaining about indy.

the facility was top notch.

ducati island was in an awesome location  [thumbsup]

did you guys see the card stunt on tv?

posting this just cuz it put a big smile on my face when i saw it...   :)

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Well thanks for warning me, Pakhan and I rode around like maniacs to get back to the shitty motel. The motel was only about a mile and a half away and it took 25 miles to get there. Every road that his GPS suggested was blocked off in just about every case.  [bang]

1) learn which parking lot empties to the direction you need to go and park there

or...

2) wait for traffic to empty and travel whichever way you want.

My brother-in-law and I took a lap on the track Monday morning - me on my Monster and he on a Road King.  Does anyone know, IMS staff were taking pictures of us, are those for sale anywhere?

mitt

Try the Speedway website

I looked there first, but didn't see it.

 :-\

It could have been for security reasons / liability also, instead of souviner.

mitt

Not to minimize the coolness of the pics, but.....

WHAT ABOUT RIDING THE TRACK?  ;D


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Edit: the pics over on Soup from Nelson & Nelson are really cool... I want to see the other 900 that they took.

At least we got to see some of Indianapolis  ;D

Great seeing so many DMFers there, was a fun race but wish it didn't have to be called.  Next year........ [thumbsup]

Riding a lap was very cool. It would have been even better without a tank bag and tail bag.

 It is amazing, how fast things happen on it even at the 25-50mph I was doing.  The braking markers must move at light speed for the pros.  The surface was very smooth, and I didn't feel any major transitions between parts of the track.  The correct lines though could have been confusing for the riders.  Even with IMS workers pointing the way to go, there were so many alternate routes (oval versus road turns, pit lanes, maintenance lanes, track entrances and exits, etc) near the turns, that it would have been easy to go off course or focus on the wrong line.

mitt

Nick and I camped just off the track, and I really think that's the way to do it. It was about a 30-40 minute walk from our site to our seats in Mugello, but we never had to deal with any traffic, and we could get as drunk as we wanted without the worry of having to drive back to the hotel.

It will take an act of god to keep me away next year, the whole trip was absolutely amazing, and Karma treated us very, very, very, very well.

Which lot were you in?  We were in 4 - which was awesome, just at the opposite end of the track from the Mugello stand.

I apologize for the delay in posting these up.. i'd like to extend a big thank you to the Hoosier Hooligans for their hospitality. It was a pleasure getting to meet everyone from the board.


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Nice picks where were you sitting when they were taken?

Thank you  [thumbsup]

  Project Mugello grandstand

Nutts was in the Project Mugello stands near the ducati island side, about 3/4 of the way up.

mitt

as mitt and Grifo already mentioned I was with the Hoosier Hooligans (where else?) in the Project Mugello stand.

I´m trying to plan 2009 already  ;D

Check out the Indy coverage in the latest RoadRacingWorld. It's got a picture of several Monsters in the lot, some having been knocked over by wind.

yeah, i know.... i'm a procrastinator  ;D

my indy pics (http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/hires_melissa_photos/indy_08/?albumview=slideshow)