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Title: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on October 03, 2008, 01:16:03 PM
This would be for the blown 77 Celica I've been working on for months.

Im at the point where I can actually hook up the go pedal to the crazy looking Weber DCOE carb hanging off the side of the crazy looking supercharger this engine has.

The stock setup does not have a cable, but uses push rods.  We like the look and will retain that setup.  I have the rod ends sourced and I have the rods themselves sourced.

I can't find bell cranks.

I need to transmit motion from a left/right direction (across the firewall from one side of the car to the other) to a front to back motion and would like to use a bell crank to accomplish this (think rc car steering) 

I need something that's aluminum, has a bearing in it for smoothness and will accept a 1/4-28 thread.

I can't find them!

Anyone have any ideas?

I already Googled, and scoured McMaster Carr

ML
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Speeddog on October 03, 2008, 01:21:34 PM
Pegasus Racing?
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on October 03, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
I forgot about them. . .

Just looked around there. . .

not looking good

Thanks though [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Speeddog on October 03, 2008, 01:54:58 PM
Jeg's?

PAW?

Aircraft Spruce?
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Speedbag on October 03, 2008, 03:23:21 PM
Summit Racing?

Or check superchargermanufacturers (like Blower Drive Service, etc.) since they often carry weird stuff for carbs that have to be turned sideways to fit.

Or just design and make your own.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 03, 2008, 06:47:14 PM
Screw all that.


Send me some basic dimensions, or better yet, send pics. I'll either design up what you need, or, unless I'm *very* mistaken, I suspect I already have a spare linkage that'll do what you want laying around.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on October 04, 2008, 07:58:41 AM
Well, these might be tough to design and get it right on the first crack.

I need two, and the one is easy.  Just a 90 angle with a pivot in the middle.

The second one needs to transmit motion from 0* to about 45-60*

Now that I think of it, that shouldn't be too hard either, as long as the connections are both the same distance from the pivot the travel should be 1:1

Ill check aircraft spruce, great idea [thumupsup]

SG Ill keep you in mind if all else fails [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Speedbag on October 04, 2008, 09:15:20 AM
Another stab: http://www.pitstopusa.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=4773

Speedway Motors might be worth a look also.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on October 04, 2008, 10:40:58 AM
This one will work for sure!

http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=68366 (http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=68366)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 02:56:46 PM
Update - we got a hand full of the bell cranks in the above link.  I built brackets to support them and have everything connected up with some home made tie rods (for mock up purposes)

Push the pedal, carb opens up!  It's kind of cool to see all these rods and things moving to work the throttle.

Thanks for the idea Speedbag!
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
This post is worthless without pics.  >:(

Quote from: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 02:56:46 PM
Update - we got a hand full of the bell cranks in the above link.  I built brackets to support them and have everything connected up with some home made tie rods (for mock up purposes)

Push the pedal, carb opens up!  It's kind of cool to see all these rods and things moving to work the throttle.

Thanks for the idea Speedbag!
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: lethe on February 03, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
This post is worthless without pics.  >:(

+1
Actually screw that, I want video of this thing tearing around.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 03, 2009, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
This post is worthless without pics.  >:(


Tell that to this guy:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13264.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13264.0)


Like seven pages and three IZ_ pics. There's more proof of yeti than an actual cafe racer.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: lethe on February 03, 2009, 03:05:25 PM
+1
Actually screw that, I want video of this thing tearing around.

pregnant dogin' Celica!
pregnant dogin' Celica!
Donuts on your lawn!
[cheeky]

Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:07:22 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 03, 2009, 03:06:13 PM
Tell that to this guy:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13264.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13264.0)


Like seven pages and three IZ_ pics. There's more proof of yeti than an actual cafe racer.

Bite me.  at least I *mod* my bike! 
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
Ok, ill go take some pictures.

Give me a minute.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
pregnant dogin' Celica!
pregnant dogin' Celica!
Donuts on your lawn!
[cheeky]



Pretty sure this one will do donuts on dry pavement.

[evil] [evil]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
Ok, ill go take some pictures.

Give me a minute.

and in the meantime, I'll eat my paisleys.   [laugh]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 03, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:07:22 PM
Bite me.  at least I *mod* my bike! 

Dirt is a mod!  ;D
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 03, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
Dirt is a mod!  ;D

Uh.  Sorry, but the consensus is in...  And 'dirt' did *not* make the mod list.  [roll]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 03, 2009, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2009, 03:10:51 PM
Uh.  Sorry, but the consensus is in...  And 'dirt' did *not* make the mod list.  [roll]

White wheels to black is a mod.


Custom rashed water pump. Oh yeah. Hawt.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:29:41 PM
Here's some quick pics of the brackets.  Im no aluminum welder, but Im getting the hang of it.  These brackets show what are probably my most aesthetic welds. 

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica001.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica002.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica003.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica004.jpg)
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:32:19 PM
Aaaaanndd here's a video of the linkage working!

My friend (who kept my garage from burning yesterday) is out there working, thus the talk radio in the background [laugh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZog9pnJvKc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZog9pnJvKc)
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: lethe on February 03, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:32:19 PM
Aaaaanndd here's a video of the linkage working!

My friend (who kept my garage from burning yesterday) is out there working, thus the talk radio in the background [laugh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZog9pnJvKc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZog9pnJvKc)
That is cool, now you can't put a hood on it.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:36:39 PM
I said the same thing to the car's owner [laugh]
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Speedbag on February 03, 2009, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: lethe on February 03, 2009, 03:34:15 PM
That is cool, now you can't put a hood on it.

+1

Multiple bellcrank linkages are neato.  8)
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:39:30 PM
I wanted to run a cable but the owner wouldn't hear of it [laugh]

Im glad he made me build this.  It was worth it.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: mitt on February 04, 2009, 06:27:29 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 03, 2009, 03:29:41 PM
Here's some quick pics of the brackets.  Im no aluminum welder, but Im getting the hang of it.  These brackets show what are probably my most aesthetic welds. 

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/900rider/Celica004.jpg)

Dude, find a new nut (middle of the pic, 2nd nut on last header stud)

Otherwise, cool stuff!

mitt
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2009, 06:46:19 AM
I think if you really tried...

you could get 6 or 7 more bellcranks in that linkage.   ;D
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: Monsterlover on February 04, 2009, 07:13:20 AM
You guys crack me up [laugh]

We will find a stainless nut, it's in the plan.  I knew someone would bring that up [laugh]

Nate, there is a lot going on there, isn't there?

I couldn't think of a simpler way to do it and meet the owner's requirement of no throttle cable.

I think it's cool.
Title: Re: Attn: car people: i need help finding some throttle linkage parts
Post by: ducpainter on February 04, 2009, 07:19:12 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 04, 2009, 07:13:20 AM
You guys crack me up [laugh]

We will find a stainless nut, it's in the plan.  I knew someone would bring that up [laugh]

Nate, there is a lot going on there, isn't there?

I couldn't think of a simpler way to do it and meet the owner's requirement of no throttle cable.

I think it's cool.
It's definitely cool...

and busy. ;D

I'm just goofing on ya anyway.

If it works it's good.