Title: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on October 29, 2008, 08:43:58 PM The frightener on the monster is a bit lame so I'm thinking of installing the Stebel compact Nautilus,
http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2006.htm (http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2006.htm) Can get one of these for under 50 bucks and it will fit where I want to put it. Anyone tried anything else? Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: loony888 on October 29, 2008, 10:07:49 PM fiamm made something similar a few years back with two small trumpets mounted directly to the compressor, the stebel looks a little more discreet though, and $50 sounds reasonable.
paul. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: ptooey on October 29, 2008, 11:24:46 PM very thorough review and brand comparison here:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Betty on October 30, 2008, 01:55:13 AM Some proper horns for the Lammie perhaps ;D
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Spider on October 30, 2008, 02:34:21 AM very thorough review and brand comparison here: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm) JC, a horn could keep those women from backing into you...that is the weirdest avatar since Dos's cloud pornography. You one messed up kid! Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: ptooey on October 30, 2008, 02:56:14 AM JC, a horn could keep those women from backing into you...that is the weirdest avatar since Dos's cloud pornography. You one messed up kid! ahh the avatar-- lemme put things into perspective for you spider, was some chuckle-worthy scenery i sighted whilst on my travels on the interweb: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on October 30, 2008, 03:03:16 AM JC, a horn could keep those women from backing into you... Women like to back in to me too, must be the way I use my horn....... Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: CairnsDuc on October 30, 2008, 12:25:04 PM I'm thinking about getting a trailer for the Ducati...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KKaj26Lsw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9KKaj26Lsw) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Jukie on October 30, 2008, 01:13:03 PM maybe i should put that on lillie, but i think she wouldn't be able to move
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: BribieDuc on October 30, 2008, 07:06:31 PM Hi Brimo,
I'm running with the Monster with the Stebel compact Nautilus. Been there for a few years. brought off ebay for about $45 I think. Mounted in same location as original horn with a simple alum bracket which I made. Relay that came with it is mounted under the seat. Bloody loud and has helped me be noticed a few times now. [cheeky] Only issue is when the bike is serviced, as it affects the disgnostic readings - so install with quick release connections so it's easy to dis-engage for servicing. Can post a pic or two if it helps. John Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on October 30, 2008, 09:34:05 PM Hi Brimo, Have decided to go with the compact nautilus after a bit more research.I'm running with the Monster with the Stebel compact Nautilus. Been there for a few years. brought off ebay for about $45 I think. Mounted in same location as original horn with a simple alum bracket which I made. Relay that came with it is mounted under the seat. Bloody loud and has helped me be noticed a few times now. [cheeky] Only issue is when the bike is serviced, as it affects the disgnostic readings - so install with quick release connections so it's easy to dis-engage for servicing. Can post a pic or two if it helps. John Thanks, a pic won't be necessary, should be able to fabricate a bracket with no problems. Also Thanks for the heads up on the servicing diagnostics, wonder why that is so? It's only a relay in the horn circuit after all. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Two dogs on November 18, 2008, 12:42:28 PM Hi Brimo, I'm running with the Monster with the Stebel compact Nautilus. Been there for a few years. brought off ebay for about $45 I think. Mounted in same location as original horn with a simple alum bracket which I made. Relay that came with it is mounted under the seat. Bloody loud and has helped me be noticed a few times now. [cheeky] Only issue is when the bike is serviced, as it affects the disgnostic readings - so install with quick release connections so it's easy to dis-engage for servicing. Can post a pic or two if it helps. Hi , just purchased one as well would like to see a photo of the bracket you made and also the relay under the seat if possible , also with diagnostic does the relay affect also? Did you rig it up so the horn works only when the bike is running? cheers dez John Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: dragonworld. on November 18, 2008, 02:56:31 PM See, size DOES matter !!! [thumbsup] ;D
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on November 18, 2008, 05:23:02 PM Have not mounted it yet, but should be this weekend, as soon as i do I'll post a pic or two
Andrew Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: dragonworld. on November 18, 2008, 05:40:01 PM Hmmmmm, "Mounted" ?? ;D
"Horn" ?? ;D [cheeky] Heheheh!! ;) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on November 19, 2008, 02:49:04 PM Hmmmmm, "Mounted" ?? ;D "Horn" ?? ;D [cheeky] Heheheh!! ;) Well spotted on the pun dragonworld...I try. ;) Had another look at the bracket last night, decided to keep it simple, found a piece of hot dipped gal steel 25mm wide by 5mm thick. cut it to 45mm long, Drilled 2 X 8mm holes at 22mm centres, bolts straight on to the old horn attachment bolt, air horn hangs from that, simple really. Didn't have any in-line fuse holders in my box of bits so the wiring is a job for tonight. If you are going to use aluminium I'd reckon you'll want to use something pretty thick (at least 5mm) as vibration will fatigue the metal in no time. I'm also thinking a rubber spacer where the bracket goes on to the frame as this could also be a fatigue point. I've also seen where the existing horn bracket has been used but I don't think it'll last. Couldn't do it like that on my bike anyway as it has this big steel deflector plate under the bottom triple clamp that gets in the way. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: dragonworld. on November 19, 2008, 03:14:08 PM Heh, maybe its just the vulgar outlook I have?? (Its all Jukies fault posting leading stuff on "Story Time ;D)
With the Gal steel though , it'll start to corrode and look crappy where the cuts and drilling is, ally (Nicely anodized) or even stainless (although possibly brittle) might be a better option?? [thumbsup] Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on November 19, 2008, 03:27:56 PM Heh, maybe its just the vulgar outlook I have?? (Its all Jukies fault posting leading stuff on "Story Time ;D) With the Gal steel though , it'll start to corrode and look crappy where the cuts and drilling is, ally (Nicely anodized) or even stainless (although possibly brittle) might be a better option?? [thumbsup] err...no.. forgot to mention cold gal on the cut and drilled parts, and it's good quality hot dipped gal steel too. (Trust me I'm a tradesman) So won't be any problems. + 1 on stainless being brittle and ally is more prone to fatigue cracking. (sorry been trying to think of a pun with both horn and crack in it but the mind's a bit IZ_ this morning) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: dragonworld. on November 19, 2008, 03:31:35 PM Heh, now you've got me dirty little mind going !! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Jukie on November 19, 2008, 09:40:46 PM come on dragon you dirty little boy
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: dragonworld. on November 20, 2008, 12:05:04 AM [evil]Heh, heh, heh !! [evil] Snigger.
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on November 22, 2008, 10:00:43 PM Hooked it up today, fuse holder in next to the battery and relay behind the horn, ( there's a mounting bolt for the airbox that was perfect for attaching the relay) faaaark it's loud.
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Two dogs on December 07, 2008, 11:23:15 PM Agreed "farkin loud" had one installed today on my 1000k service
scared the shit out of my dog when I got home. Highly recomended only cost $50 with postage on ebay now I have been riding with my thumb covering the horn button just waiting for a chance to use it on unsuspecting members of the caged community ;D Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Dockstrada on January 11, 2009, 11:22:57 PM Just fitted this [thumbsup]
http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2008.htm (http://www.stebel.it/stebel/index2008.htm) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3190034283_b904c2cc17_b.jpg) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: bigiain on January 11, 2009, 11:44:47 PM Just fitted this [thumbsup] Where'd you get it? What did it cost? big Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Dockstrada on January 11, 2009, 11:46:34 PM Where'd you get it? What did it cost? big Got it from my mate who had a spare,But he got it from flee bay 45 smackers plus post [thumbsup] Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: bigiain on January 11, 2009, 11:53:05 PM Got it from my mate who had a spare,But he got it from flee bay 45 smackers plus post [thumbsup] Gotcha - sounds like he got a good deal - there's one available now at a buy it now of $55 + $9.95 postage... I'll keep my eyes out... I assume it sounds good? And it's LOUD! ? big Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Jukie on January 11, 2009, 11:54:42 PM so does that mean there is going to be a Horn off like the sound off
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Dockstrada on January 12, 2009, 12:00:22 AM Gotcha - sounds like he got a good deal - there's one available now at a buy it now of $55 + $9.95 postage... I'll keep my eyes out... I assume it sounds good? And it's LOUD! ? big Yeh the Stebel site dosent do it justice,its lowder than my monster when im going [thumbsup] Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: bigiain on January 12, 2009, 12:08:05 AM Yeh the Stebel site dosent do it justice,its lowder than my monster when im going [thumbsup] _Excellent!_ I'm eyeing off some of the electric ones they sell too - might be a bit easier to "hide" on my non-watercooled bike... 3dB quieter tho... big Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: ungeheuer on January 16, 2009, 05:21:58 AM ..... I'm running with the Monster with the Stebel compact Nautilus..... Mounted in same location as original horn with a simple alum bracket which I made. Relay that came with it is mounted under the seat. Bloody loud and has helped me be noticed a few times now. Only issue is when the bike is serviced, as it affects the disgnostic readings - so install with quick release connections so it's easy to dis-engage for servicing. John Love the sound, hate the look. Here's mine: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3217970686_60d33d107f.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3462/3217970688_6416c4f6a2.jpg?v=0) Whats all this about a simple relay/horn affecting Ducati sevice diagnostic readings, hmm? Anyone able to enlighten me further on that? Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on January 16, 2009, 04:22:56 PM _Excellent!_ I'm eyeing off some of the electric ones they sell too - might be a bit easier to "hide" on my non-watercooled bike... 3dB quieter tho... big 3db is about the volume of a fly releasing its bowel gas, Have had to reevaluate the mounting position as I've found under full susension compression the horn contacts the front guard, can't get it any higher as the metal tray thingy under the bottom triple clamp contacts it then. Just what does that piece of steel do any way? maybe a water deflector for the air intake, any how it's a Major a*se pain. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Two dogs on January 18, 2009, 01:50:54 PM Love the sound, hate the look. Here's mine: http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15418&d=1232029256 (http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15418&d=1232029256) http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15419&d=1232029994 (http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15419&d=1232029994) Whats all this about a simple relay/horn affecting Ducati sevice diagnostic readings, hmm? Anyone able to enlighten me further on that? I asked exactly that question of the Stebel after reading many posts on this site in the Nth Hemi section, the owner and head mechanic at Northside Artarmon said that it would not effect the diagnostic readings and that it was all internet forum B/S "stop reading forum rubbish on the internet" Suppose I wont find out for another year when fluffy goes under the stethoscope . I have kept my OEM horn just in case but not really worried about it . Love my horn , it saved me the other day from a boy racer in his ute who was lane swapping without looking It woke him up immediatly even with his window up and stereo on ;D Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: ungeheuer on January 19, 2009, 04:12:09 AM Good, coz that's what i figured.... Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: BribieDuc on January 19, 2009, 03:40:15 PM Pity simple really. Forums like this are to share individual experiences for the collective good - my experience is that in two servicings, the horn has had to be disconnected for valid readings. Why? Who knows. Although having rewired a few old ducs myself, I won't even try to get my head around the Monster's electrical system. 100K on the Monster from new, I've learnt it just is and quirks can be caused by multiple things that come together in an unusual manner - it may not be the case for you.
You have three choices with forum inputs: 1. Prepare for the potential issue (in this case, less than a dollar for release connectors just in case) 2. Consider, and assess that its a one off issue and irrelevant for you, 3. follow your mechanics advice and simply 'stop reading forum rubbish' (personally, help over the years from this forum and its predecessor has generally been better than that from the dealer/servicer!) Maybe value the DMF inputs in the spirit they're given and leave the claims of BS for elsewhere. The more inputs you can read, the better informed the your eventual decision (whatever it is). Anyway, enjoy the Stebel and look after your 'fluffy' (interesting name for a duc?) Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: brimo on January 19, 2009, 09:40:10 PM quote ".......and look after your 'fluffy' (interesting name for a duc?)"
fluffy duc (k) ? Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: BribieDuc on January 19, 2009, 09:48:20 PM ah yes....Excellent!
Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: bmroxm5 on January 19, 2009, 09:52:23 PM 3db is about the volume of a fly releasing its bowel gas, To increase volume by 3db you need to double your power output. That's how it works in car stereo anyway. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: ungeheuer on January 21, 2009, 03:39:41 PM Pity simple really. Forums like this are to share individual experiences for the collective good - my experience is that in two servicings, the horn has had to be disconnected for valid readings. Why? Who knows. Although having rewired a few old ducs myself, I won't even try to get my head around the Monster's electrical system. 100K on the Monster from new, I've learnt it just is and quirks can be caused by multiple things that come together in an unusual manner - it may not be the case for you. You have three choices with forum inputs: 1. Prepare for the potential issue (in this case, less than a dollar for release connectors just in case) 2. Consider, and assess that its a one off issue and irrelevant for you, 3. follow your mechanics advice and simply 'stop reading forum rubbish' (help over the years from this forum and its predecessor has generally been better than that from the dealer/servicer!) Maybe value the DMF inputs in the spirit they're given and leave the claims of BS for elsewhere. The more inputs you can read, the better informed the your eventual decision (whatever it is). Anyway, enjoy the Stebel and look after your 'fluffy' (interesting name for a duc?) Aw... you took what I said personally. It was never my intention to offend, and in fact I agree with your sentiments especially "...help over the years from this forum and its predecessor has generally been better than that from the dealer/servicer!)". This is precisely to where my flippant doubt was directed. I merely wonder about the validity of the advice given to you by the service personnel, not your sincerity in sharing it with us here. I'd be interested to know just how and what readings were invalidated by the installation of nothing more complex than a simple horn. Sincere apologies for any unintended offence. Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: Two dogs on January 21, 2009, 05:18:58 PM Pity simple really. Forums like this are to share individual experiences for the collective good - my experience is that in two servicings, the horn has had to be disconnected for valid readings. Why? Who knows. Although having rewired a few old ducs myself, I won't even try to get my head around the Monster's electrical system. 100K on the Monster from new, I've learnt it just is and quirks can be caused by multiple things that come together in an unusual manner - it may not be the case for you. The quote of "stop reading forum rubbish" was not mine it was a throw away comment by one of the bike shop employees You have three choices with forum inputs: 1. Prepare for the potential issue (in this case, less than a dollar for release connectors just in case) 2. Consider, and assess that its a one off issue and irrelevant for you, 3. follow your mechanics advice and simply 'stop reading forum rubbish' (personally, help over the years from this forum and its predecessor has generally been better than that from the dealer/servicer!) Maybe value the DMF inputs in the spirit they're given and leave the claims of BS for elsewhere. The more inputs you can read, the better informed the your eventual decision (whatever it is). Anyway, enjoy the Stebel and look after your 'fluffy' (interesting name for a duc?) so I was not out to dis this or any other forum. So apologies if it sounded like it was my words , I have found nothing but good advice and good humor here with no cyber bullies unlike MTB forums. I am a a bit sensitive with this area as I am also a MTB rider and have been verbally abused on MTB forums before for saying the wrong thing and offending people so I don't want to get off on the wrong foot here. As for fluffy well its the smallest Monster of the pack so its just a joke :P kind of a cute little fluffy duck not your snarling 1000cc beast. And thanks for the heads up re: diagnostic problems as I said I will cross that bridge when the next test come up Title: Re: ooh I'm getting a horn Post by: BribieDuc on January 22, 2009, 01:45:26 AM None taken. Healthy dialogue. [wine]
I know what you mean...My daily ride is also a 620... I think of her as a snarling beast ,which she is compared to the Monza! Then I see a Monster with a fridge and come back to earth [cheeky] Don'y have a name for the Monster but the Monza is called Grace ''Through many dangers, toils and snares, we have already come. T'was Grace that brought us safe thus far, and Grace will lead us home' - which it doesn't always!! |