Ducati Monster Forum

Nemesis now has a replacement ECU for the M1000, 695, S4R and S4RS. I'll have them available shortly - contact me to reserve yours. Retail is $1250. I'll be doing package deals with this and an exhaust. This is by far- hands down the best option there is. Don't even ask how dyno jet compares as it isn't allowed to be used in the same sentence... seriously :D

If you don't know what the Nemesis is... check out their website here: http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine.html (http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine.html)

Basically it allows you to do anything you can think of inside the ECU. Full access to everything! We will be making maps this winter and Nemesis already has some available that will come with the unit.

Here are some of the things the end user can adjust:

Injector ‘dead time’ table (time to open the injector at differing battery voltages) This allows you to change injectors

Coil dwell table for users who wish to change coils

On/off selection for the ‘tilt switch’ input

Full access to the throttle calibration and breakpoint selection

RPM breakpoint selection

Full access to the wide band lambda calibration and breakpoint selection (16 points)

Pre-injection time – mSec of injector open duration at power on to prime the cylinders

Fuel pump timer strategy

Tilt switch strategy

Over run fuel / spark strategy

Temperature activation threshold for left and right cooling fan

Professional ‘flat shift’ strategy

Tyre circumference & trigger teeth calibration

Rev limiters for spark and fuel (no limitations)

Advanced transient strategy for fuel and spark advance with full user control

Advance correction tables for air temp / water temp / horizontal and vertical cylinder / air pressure

Injection correction for tables for air temp / water temp / air pressure

Injection phase angle table plotted against RPM

Horizontal cylinder injection table in mSec with 32 x RPM and 20 x Throttle breakpoints

Vertical cylinder injection table in mSec with 32 x RPM and 20 x Throttle breakpoints

Spark advance table in degrees with 32 x RPM and 20 x Throttle breakpoints

Injection correction table as a function of speed with 32 x speed and 20 x Throttle breakpoints

Advance correction table as a function of speed with 32 x speed and 20 x Throttle breakpoints

Cranking correction (cold start map) with 32 x engine rotation and 20 x temperature breakpoints

Your map may be loaded into map 1 or map 2 positions when you upload to the ECU, so the entire map may be different not just a trim.

Target RPM value for cold start and normal running

Any insider info on something for the 696?

The 696 and 1100 ECUs are made by a different company so I bet it will be a while before there is anything else. It is my understanding that Nemesis is somehow associated with Marelli who makes the ECUs on all of the bikes that Nemesis offers ECUs for.

The 696 is a little more complicated as well so I don't know how soon there will even be piggy back systems.

Does that price include the software necessary to alter all parameters?

Yes.

Nemesis ECU kit including:
      ECU
      Short PC adaptor cable N-7002 
      PC serial lead N-7001 
      CD with all software and maps

There are also a ton of add-ons like quick shifter, digital dash board, wide band O2 senors with development loom, mounting brackets, lap timing, data logging etc...

I'm guessing you need a peecee to alter and play with the settings?

Looks really really really impressive.

Yep, that is correct.... and it is! They really do work as advertised - a very solid product with great support. They have been out for the 1098 for quite some time now and have been used with great success by everyone from street riders to fast guy racers.

How about a lowly S2R1K ???  :P

We don't seem to get much love when it comes to ECU's besides a DP/Termi one [cheeky]

Any word on the base maps for the S4Rs...ie will it come with a stock map for the bike that will allow for starting, idle, driving, tuning...or will a map need to be built from the ground up ?

Not sure - I'll get that info though. I didn't see it on the list, but there are a bunch of other 1000DS motored bikes so it should. I'll verify if there is a reason it won't work with it.

Anthony Creek

No word yet as the S4Rs unit is brand new, but the supplied maps for the 1098 cured the same issue so I assume that won't be an issue for any other bike either.

I've been waiting for this release for a LONGGGGG time...unfortunately with the economy and stock market the way it is, I've got no cash...

How about a lay-away plan?

The Nemesis gets rid of the immoblizer, right?  I know some local race Ducs run 'em (Tigre was contemplating one after his most recent yard sale), but I'm not interested in upping my RPM or anything fancy.  However, a real, usable alternative to the immobilizer, gauge, ECU set-up would be awesome.

Yes it gets rid of the immobilzer, I understand the amber light still flashes.

Got this today

Nemesis-2
The Nemesis 2 is a completely new hardware platform with a host of additional inputs and outputs making it compatible with the majority of Ducati models such as Hypermotard, Monster, S4RS. GT, Supersport etc. In addition to the extra compatibility it is now 8mm thinner.
Maps for Nemesis 2 are continually being developed by ourselves and our dealers, as well as those already in existence for Nemesis 1 which are 100% compatible with this latest version.
The software interface has not changed so there is nothing new to learn forany existing user.
Full details of the Nemesis-2 can be found on our download page
http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine_Nemesis_News.html (http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine_Nemesis_News.html)
For a full application list contact your nearest Nemesis tuning centre
http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine_Nemesis_Dealers.html (http://www.mmcompsys.com/motorsportsengine_Nemesis_Dealers.html)

anything available for me to rid my immobilizer on my 2002 M900 yet?  I'm tired of wasting money on guages...  :-\

Really? A serial cable? Why would this new product come without a USB cable?

I can't speak for the Nemesis unit, but for related applications I have heard it said that standard serial cabling and ports are far superior in noisy environments.  USB is certainly more convenient these days, but apparently USB was really only designed for keyboards/mice/etc.  Nemesis seems to offer a USB adapter for computers without a serial port.  I ran into the same issues with my Innovate and Split Second gear - my new laptop lacked a serial port, so I needed to employ a good adapter.  The serial cable is a good thing here.

BK

RB3's "USB" connector is also a serial too. Its got a built in converter on the box.

Buells data cable is also a serial to USB. though you need to install specific drivers for the device built into the body of hte USB that converts Serial to USB.

desmoworks, how much would the nemesis setup be for a 749 please? My guages are kaput and I really want something a bit nicer.. although I am pretty much ready to buy another setup via eBay that I´ve spotted.

Tigre gave me some good advice regarding this.

What all do you need? The ECU and dash? Quickshifter - anything else?

I believe this is what Desmoto has been using on their 1098s. Talk to Scott...

can anyone answer this?  or is it a no?

I'm not aware of anything for the M900.

Its yes, the Nemesis does not have the imobliser

thanks anyway then!!!

I guess I'll have to strip out the immobilizer a different way.  Plan on swapping out my ECU and wiring harness for a year older and pre-immobilizer one then. sucks  :-\

I had posted up on this unit at the DML about a year ago after having swapped several emails with them ...
Per the fine folks at nemesis........ the new unit will work on the S2R1000..

My correspondence with them..
Hi Patrick
Yes the new versions cover all monsters and your local dealer has details of which version you need for your bike. You should however find a 'tuning centre' rather than a Nemesis re-seller to supply this as there is currently no map 'off the shelf' available form us.
 
We will of course develop one as and when a bike becomes available but it may be quicker to get your local Nemesis tuner to do this for you.
 
Regards
 
Mick Boasman
Competition Systems Ltd – UK
Tel Direct: +44(0)1295 768 754
Mobile: +44(0)7798 902470
www.competitionsystems.co.uk (http://www.competitionsystems.co.uk)
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From: Patrick Henry [mailto:phenryib1bit@yahoo.com]
Sent: 23 November 2008 17:42
To: competition systems
Subject: Re: ECU & Lamda Sensors for Ducati S2R1000 2006


Hello Mick,
Hope all is well in Merry Ol England.
I received your news letter that details the newest version and it looks like it may work on my S2R1000.... or not.
The compatible bikes show the Hypermotard and the GT1000 and another DS 1000 engined bike but not my beloved Monster per se.
 
Is it compatible and if not is it an absolutly not or that it would require some hardware wirinng mods to accomplish.
I'd sure think that if the other DS engined bikes are compatible that the Monster would be real close
 
Regards,
 
MOTOLOCOPAT

In his next reply he told me that they or some of the tuning shops should get a good canned map for the S2R shortly.
It is the real deal and can handle anything from a Exhaust to a big-bore highlift cammed fully built engine.

Thats interesting.  Seems like Nemisis is saying there isn't a "base map" for the bike.... [bang]

To build a map from scratch that drives like stock buy has more power is a LOT more difficult than you might think. 

I've tuned quite a few different EMS systems before.  AEM's, Haltech, SDS, F.A.S.T., M4 and M4 pro's before, and you still need to spend quite a bit of time tweaking and tuning to get the driveability to what I'd consider "good".  Tuning WOT is pretty easy/simple, but the rest of the tuning is what is going to be a bear.  It's much easier with a pre-made map, but from nothing?  Yikes....

I would check with Silverback Performance to see if they have developed a map for the S4RS.  Their 1098 map has become the "base" map that Nemesis is shipped out with.  I believe they were one of the first tuners to solve the cold start/stutter problem for the Nemesis.

I need a new dash basically as mine got smashed up.. i have my 2 x Black keys, 1 x Red Key, Code Card, DP ECU... and the smashed clocks. Quickshifter would be nice but not necessary right now.