Looking at a 2006 H3 with the wife.
Any thoughts?
From what I have read, seem to be reliable and decent fuel mileage, between 15-18, considering the size.
48k miles and an extended warranty to 100k for 19,800, list price.
What is your purpose in buying it?
General transportation? Off Roading?
I think there are probably quite a few other choices out there that would be better.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 29, 2008, 11:43:01 AM
I think there are probably quite a few other choices out there that would be better.
such as?
get her a dodge nitro...
for 1/2 the price you get,
same great aerodynamic shape
same great mileage
same great.......
If it's that shitty five cylinder. Stay away, it's a dog.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on November 29, 2008, 11:45:11 AM
such as?
That would depend on what you need. Cargo space? Off road capability? On road comfort? Fuel economy? 4wd? Et cetera.
I have a consumer reports 2009 buyers guide sitting next to me:
2006 h3 - first year for it.
Scored below average on drive system repairs, engine major repairs, paint & trim, body integrity
Used car verdict - "much worse than average"
Consumer reports isn't perfect, but it is an indicator.
mitt
IIRC reading about the 2006 models, they were severely underpowered because they pulled the I-5 from the Canyon/Colorado (still same basic chassis IIRC) and put a much heavier body & drivetrain. If it's the article I think I was reading, it also didn't even make it to 60mph before it passed the brake point for the 60-0 brake test. Maybe 0-60 in 11 seconds?
JM
Ewwwww......
Sorry, really hate the H2/H3. Seems like a poser soccermom minivan.
I'd take an H1 any day though....
(http://www.squeezeboxstudios.com/shop%20close/dummer.jpg)
FJ Cruiser is a far better vehicle.
Quote from: kopfjager on November 29, 2008, 06:57:35 PM
FJ Cruiser is a far better vehicle.
+1 and it isn't a poser vehicle or a "girls" car. :)
The H3 is an exercise in taking a mediocre truck and making it worse while increasing the price tag.
Quote from: mitt on November 29, 2008, 02:56:18 PM
I have a consumer reports 2009 buyers guide sitting next to me:
2006 h3 - first year for it.
Scored below average on drive system repairs, engine major repairs, paint & trim, body integrity
Used car verdict - "much worse than average"
Consumer reports isn't perfect, but it is an indicator.
mitt
all I needed to know, thanks.
didn't seem underpowered to me, but then again, I guess we all have different driving habits and expectations in a vehicle.
Quote from: hbliam on November 29, 2008, 08:04:26 PM
+1 and it isn't a poser vehicle or a "girls" car. :)
Except as I recall the FJs don't have a low-range mode. ;)
To me, it ain't an off-roady type vehicle unless you can drive over your neighbor's car at idle.
Quote from: Speedbag on November 30, 2008, 05:36:45 AM
Except as I recall the FJs don't have a low-range mode. ;)
To me, it ain't an off-roady type vehicle unless you can drive over your neighbor's car at idle.
All four that I had were equipped with low range and were a kick in the pants off road
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 30, 2008, 08:51:43 AM
All four that I had were equipped with low range and were a kick in the pants off road
Really? Cool. [thumbsup]
I recall reading recently in a car magazine that they didn't come with a low-range. I guess they were wrong (damn experts).
I just want my beloved Jeep TJ back....
the only thing wrong with the fj cruiser..........is the way it looks
Quote from: herm on November 30, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
the only thing wrong with the fj cruiser..........is the way it looks
It would go great with a 696.
At least one of them would look good by comparison.
Quote from: somebastid on November 30, 2008, 11:28:33 AM
It would go great with a 696.
At least one of them would look good by comparison.
Ever seen an ugly couple stand next to each other? they all damn ugly, makes no difference here. One is ugly, the other is ugly....er...
696 ugly? cmon :P
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/3061189420_1e3e89c53c_o.jpg)
^^^^^ I gotta find that t-shirt. [thumbsup]
Yeah, that's a good one. Can't help with finding it, saw a picture on one of the online blogs ;)
sorry randimus.......
(http://www.vultureminecruisers.com/gallery/67fj40/67fj404.jpg)
Quote from: herm on November 30, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
sorry randimus.......
(http://www.vultureminecruisers.com/gallery/67fj40/67fj404.jpg)
Indeed. [thumbsup]
Someone locally has one that's totally tricked out, fully articulated suspension, beadlock wheels, and all. The entire exterior (and probably the interior) is sprayed with pickup bed liner, very nicely done. It looks awesome and talk about easy to maintain.
not sure if this also applies for the H3
http://www.fuh2.com/ (http://www.fuh2.com/)
btw...I like the FJ ,my Wife got a 65 FJ40 from here Dad , still needs some Work done to be perfect other than the Engine,Lift,Seats,Rims and Tires that have been completed already.
Quote from: herm on November 30, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
sorry randimus.......
(http://www.vultureminecruisers.com/gallery/67fj40/67fj404.jpg)
herm,
I completely agree with you.
However, finding one in that condition for a price less than what you can get an FJ Cruiser for (which has more space and better fuel economy) is virtually impossible.
Forget the H3 and the fj for that matter.
Get the Jeep Wrangker JK, 4 door. Ive been itching for one but I love my Avalanche too much. Whats better than going topless in the summertime?
Quote from: rgramjet on November 30, 2008, 07:07:25 PM
Forget the H3 and the fj for that matter.
Get the Jeep Wrangker JK, 4 door. Ive been itching for one but I love my Avalanche too much. Whats better than going topless in the summertime?
Seriously?
They actually have the worst power to weight ratio of the three (four if you include xTerra).
And sit just above H3 for worst fuel economy of the four.
And have the least towing capacity.
I used to Own a H1 and also a Jeep Rubicon. I would take a Jeep anyday over a H1/H2/H3 etc.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 30, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
Seriously?
They actually have the worst power to weight ratio of the three (four if you include xTerra).
And sit just above H3 for worst fuel economy of the four.
And have the least towing capacity.
Seriously.
Did you buy a Ducati for the power to weight ratio, the fuel economy and carrying capacity?
Coolness costs man. 8)
Quote from: rgramjet on December 01, 2008, 06:27:17 AM
Seriously.
Did you buy a Ducati for the power to weight ratio, the fuel economy and carrying capacity?
Coolness costs man. 8)
to each his own.
But, Cyrus still has not given us his intentions, so we're all still guessing at this point. ;)
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on December 01, 2008, 07:06:36 AM
But, Cyrus still has not given us his intentions, so we're all still guessing at this point. ;)
My intentions are just wanting to own an SUV for the 4wd aspect, towing, and some additional space.
I think I am going to go with a 2006 Jeep Liberty turbo diesel.
I know someone that has the Diesel Liberty and is very happy with it ~
JM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 30, 2008, 06:52:01 PM
herm,
I completely agree with you.
However, finding one in that condition for a price less than what you can get an FJ Cruiser for (which has more space and better fuel economy) is virtually impossible.
yeh, they are not exactly practical, but thats not the point (for me)
my first set of wheels was a 1970 fj40............i miss it.
i will have another one some day [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 01, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
My intentions are just wanting to own an SUV for the 4wd aspect, towing, and some additional space.
I think I am going to go with a 2006 Jeep Liberty turbo diesel.
Only thing I would worry about is repair costs. Since they no longer make the diesel version, my friend in the parts dept at the largest Chrysler dealer in the area says the parts have sky rocketed.
I wanted one as well...also wanted a Toureg V10 Turbo Diesel. But then I worked on the shakers for a long time in the Army and am biased towrds black clouds of exhaust. Wel that and my friend's 1100 ft lbs of torque from his Cummins Dodge...
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 01, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
My intentions are just wanting to own an SUV for the 4wd aspect, towing, and some additional space.
I think I am going to go with a 2006 Jeep Liberty turbo diesel.
My sister has one.
It has been a mess:
-Won't idle in the winter (mind you, it doesn't get THAT cold in GA)
-Has had the idler pully replaced 3 times.
-Shuts off randomly while trying to start from a stop and turn at the same time.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 01, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
My intentions are just wanting to own an SUV for the 4wd aspect, towing, and some additional space.
I think I am going to go with a 2006 Jeep Liberty turbo diesel.
I think we are kind of looking for something the same as you.
The wife says she HAS to have a suv, so I said if we get one it has to have 4wd/awd and be able to tow stuff
the short list:
jeep comander
VW toureg
Nissan Xterra
Honda Pilot (not very useful off-road, but the wifey likes it and it has AWD)
neighbor has a X5 he wants to get rid of, for a decent price
was on the list but booted:
Jeep liberty (I liked them until my parents bought one...it is LITERALLY falling apart in the driveway)...isn't diesel though
diesel grand cherokee (found out that was a one year deal I guess?)
FJ (no back doors)
yota 4 runner
LP ~ I've heard really good things about the Xterra too. Nice power (265hp?), decent 4x4 system.
JM
Xterras rock. [thumbsup] I have an '04 with ~65,000 miles. No problems AT ALL. It also has real 4WD, not some push button electronic system with no low gear and no shift lever.
My only complaint is it gets bad mileage (~14-15 mpg city...~19-20 hwy). It's the older version with the smaller engine (170 hp 6 cyl). Could use more power on the freeway for passing, but I don't mind really...it's a truck not a sports car.
Quote from: Triple J on December 01, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
Xterras rock. [thumbsup] I have an '04 with ~65,000 miles. No problems AT ALL. It also has real 4WD, not some push button electronic system with no low gear and no shift lever.
My only complaint is it gets bad mileage (~14-15 mpg city...~19-20 hwy). It's the older version with the smaller engine (170 hp 6 cyl). Could use more power on the freeway for passing, but I don't mind really...it's a truck not a sports car.
I have a 2006 xterra, and so far, so good. A few little cosmetic and trim problems, but the engine and drive train are solid and nice. I can get 20mpg in the summer, and 15mpg in the winter.
I also tow a 2500lb boat, and do some mild off roading with it, and it handles no problem.
mitt
Quote from: ZLTFUL on December 01, 2008, 09:22:22 AM
Only thing I would worry about is repair costs. Since they no longer make the diesel version, my friend in the parts dept at the largest Chrysler dealer in the area says the parts have sky rocketed.
Hollander Interchange Manual...
http://hollanderinterchange.net/ (http://hollanderinterchange.net/)
Quote from: Triple J on December 01, 2008, 10:38:04 AM
Xterras rock. [thumbsup] I have an '04 with ~65,000 miles. No problems AT ALL. It also has real 4WD, not some push button electronic system with no low gear and no shift lever.
My only complaint is it gets bad mileage (~14-15 mpg city...~19-20 hwy). It's the older version with the smaller engine (170 hp 6 cyl). Could use more power on the freeway for passing, but I don't mind really...it's a truck not a sports car.
Ouch, thats only a few MPGs better than my wifes Escalade ESV!!
It'll haul 7 people comfortably with full luggage in the rear and your Monster on the trailer hitch! Love the load leveling suspension! Best part is its Pimp as a Muhmake the beast with two backser! Get an Eskie!
Quote from: Mother on December 01, 2008, 12:05:35 PM
Hollander Interchange Manual...
http://hollanderinterchange.net/ (http://hollanderinterchange.net/)
Great resource when interchange parts can be had...hehe. A vast majority of the post-transmission drive train parts are the same as are body/interior components. It's the wire loom, engine and trans parts that start to become questionable. Had my brother's friend run a search for a few engine and transmission parts through his salvage yard network and he came up with 1 Liberty Diesel in the 1700+ salvage yards on the network. Just something to consider.
After some research through a relative in the auto industry.......
Liberty diesel made one year..........
Chrysler ended up buying a shit ton of them back for various reasons.
Bottom line: they appear to be shit
They are going for 9-10g at the whole sale car auctions
I tried my uncle's Toyota Highlander Hybrid in September.. it's a bit small for a true 4x4 stature but, this thing is rapid up to 90mph and in gear acceleration is excellent..
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/hl/08highlanderh.htm (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/hl/08highlanderh.htm)
Or a Land Cruiser!
I grew up on Land Rover S2 trucks in east africa, my father loved these cars - we had a V8 pickup that my dad bought from one of the catholic missions and that was mean.. but, personally I go for reliability and real off road ability without having to modify the car. I had a Land Cruiser 95 LWB for a few years and I really loved it, off road it was great and never ever let me down.
I'll sell you the '77 Wagoneer buried at the back of my garage, some assembly required.
Quote from: lethe on December 01, 2008, 03:40:22 PM
I'll sell you the '77 Wagoneer buried at the back of my garage, some assembly required.
Is it maroon with the wood wallpaper? Ill pay you to not drop it off....or even kid about it! lol
Quote from: rgramjet on December 01, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
Is it maroon with the wood wallpaper? Ill pay you to not drop it off....or even kid about it! lol
No, all primer grey, all woodgrain removed with a 4" lift and a missing front bumper from the previous owner's adventures in road rage.
It's been sitting in the same spot of my garage for going on 14 years.
Quote from: lethe on December 01, 2008, 03:45:38 PM
It's been sitting in the same spot of my garage for going on 14 years.
Right on top of that project....eh?
Quote from: ducpainter on December 01, 2008, 04:24:12 PM
Right on top of that project....eh?
I told you that I have a longer list of projects than I could ever complete in one lifetime.
I was driving that when I first moved to PA. At least I had an opportunity to put 4 feet of air under the tires before I parked it.
The Chevelle has been sitting where it sits almost as long too and should be the priority project anyway.
I would like to make the Jeep run again though, it was fun.
My gf has a jeep grand cheerokee, water pump just went out for the third time on friday. I just want to drive into the river. Nothing but problems [bang]
Quote from: Speedomax on December 01, 2008, 04:41:54 PM
My gf has a jeep grand cheerokee, water pump just went out for the third time on friday. I just want to drive into the river. Nothing but problems [bang]
The same consumer reports I quoted on page 1, ranked almost all Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles at the bottom of their class for reliability.
mitt
I currently have a Jeep Liberty Renegade for the Camping and Boating Trips.
Not a full size SUV but it can tow 5k and it does okay with my Boat [thumbsup]
Quote from: lethe on December 01, 2008, 04:28:37 PM
I told you that I have a longer list of projects than I could ever complete in one lifetime.
I was driving that when I first moved to PA. At least I had an opportunity to put 4 feet of air under the tires before I parked it.
The Chevelle has been sitting where it sits almost as long too and should be the priority project anyway.
I would like to make the Jeep run again though, it was fun.
What year and what motor Chevelle? I had a 72 SS 454 convertible clone. My favorite car ever!
Quote from: ROBsS4R on December 01, 2008, 05:13:27 PM
I currently have a Jeep Liberty Renegade for the Camping and Boating Trips.
I test drove a brand new '06 Jeep Liberty when looking for a new 4x4 suv, and had 2 problems on the test drive. It would not go into reverse consistently, and fan setting #3 did not work - the fan just shut off. Otherwise I liked it, but I crossed it off right away based on that experience.
mitt
when i get my bail out money
if money was no object, i would get me one of these (just to have).
(http://www.luxcarnet.com/vImages/V54857.jpg)
Quote from: herm on December 01, 2008, 05:41:35 PM
when i get my bail out money
if money was no object, i would get me one of these (just to have).
+1 or a defender 110
mitt
Quote from: ROBsS4R on December 01, 2008, 05:13:27 PM
I currently have a Jeep Liberty Renegade for the Camping and Boating Trips.
Not a full size SUV but it can tow 5k and it does okay with my Boat [thumbsup]
+1 on the Liberty, I had a 2004 and in a year and a half of running around upstate NY I managed to put 85k on that thing and it was "almost" unstoppable. It was my fault for taking it down a seasonal/snowmoblie path and after five miles I decided to turn around (not so smart).
That thing never skipped a beat, never was in for any repair at all, was stoopid easy to drive and park, the 4wd was easy and flawless, mileage was around 20 (but I've got a VERY heavy foot, and don't have to pay for gas ;D). I'd recommend it , hell I'd even buy one if I needed a car.
+1 on the FJ, My friend has one and we convinced him to dune it one weekend, it never had an issue. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ROBsS4R on December 01, 2008, 05:13:27 PM
I currently have a Jeep Liberty Renegade for the Camping and Boating Trips.
Not a full size SUV but it can tow 5k and it does okay with my Boat [thumbsup]
have you had issues with your windows?
my parents bought a 06, and both of the rear windows have fallen down while it was parked in the driveway. they just fall....one of them busted when it hit the bottom of the inside of the door.
thats not the only problem, there have been many more, but that'd be a big issue with me...especially if they fell while I was at the mall and all my shit got stolen [laugh]
Quote from: rgramjet on December 01, 2008, 05:15:41 PM
What year and what motor Chevelle? I had a 72 SS 454 convertible clone. My favorite car ever!
'69 SS 396, every time I try to get started with doing something with it, another thing comes up to put it on hold again. :'(
I keep debating selling it to someone who actually has the time and money but I don't really want to.
Hm, what kinda shape's it in?
Quote from: NAKID on November 29, 2008, 06:45:42 PM
Ewwwww......
Sorry, really hate the H2/H3. Seems like a poser soccermom minivan.
I'd take an H1 any day though....
+1 on what Naval Homie said. Old Skool H1 FTW.
Ugh...a Defender 90? My old bss had 3 of them...not all at once but the first 2 had so many issues (brand new mind you) the dealer bought em back eventually. The third one is marginally better but he says his old FJs are better in most every way to his new Defender.
PM sent.
going with a 2005 Tahoe or around that
Hey Jud, what's your guys' mailing address? I want to send Tiffers a soccer mom sticker, 4 cell phones, 2 1/2 make-up kits, a bag of fast food, and a Mocha Latte from Starbucks.
;D
Quote from: mitt on December 01, 2008, 05:07:04 PM
The same consumer reports I quoted on page 1, ranked almost all Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicles at the bottom of their class for reliability.
mitt
that may be so
however
with my 2003 TJ
I can replace the entire drive train from motor to hubs for 2500 bucks
you could barely replace a single component in any of those more reliable vehicles for that
Quote from: Mother on December 03, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
that may be so
however
with my 2003 TJ
I can replace the entire drive train from motor to hubs for 2500 bucks
you could barely replace a single component in any of those more reliable vehicles for that
I'm not sure that's a seeling point.
"You may have to fix it all the time, but at least it's cheap!"
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 03, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I'm not sure that's a seeling point.
"You may have to fix it all the time, but at least it's cheap!"
more like
you may have to replace a component
vs
it may just be cheaper to buy a new truck
Quote from: Mother on December 03, 2008, 10:52:18 AM
more like
you may have to replace a component
vs
it may just be cheaper to buy a new truck
I'll stick with my military jeep. It's bulletproof.
Literally.
Quote from: Mother on December 03, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
that may be so
however
with my 2003 TJ
I can replace the entire drive train from motor to hubs for 2500 bucks
you could barely replace a single component in any of those more reliable vehicles for that
OK, that is a Jeep Renegade. How about the Sebring, Caravan, Neon, etc etc.
mitt
Quote from: mitt on December 03, 2008, 11:21:45 AM
OK, that is a Jeep Renegade. How about the Sebring, Caravan, Neon, etc etc.
mitt
not 4x4's therefor they do not exist in my world except for obstacles in my path to and from work
they do not register on the care o meter
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 03, 2008, 10:56:33 AM
I'll stick with my military jeep. It's bulletproof. Literally.
I always had a thing for the old jeeps
but the new coil suspension on the TJ's really sold me to them
the bodies are not the greatest thing to look at but a few welded on parts and a few dents helps
oh and Fuel Injection is an outstanding upgrade cuz I hate
Flooded [bang]
Carb [bang] [bang]
Bowls [bang] [bang] [bang]
from side hilling
damn Holleys
yeh, and snowboarders love jeeps.........
Quote from: herm on December 03, 2008, 11:34:58 AM
yeh, and snowboarders love jeeps.........
no snow so far = no snowboarders = mother ;D
I just run over anything short of a Mack Titan...
It may be an unreliable piece of shit Dodge...but it's a MASSIVELY HUGE unreliable piece of shit Dodge.
A little late to the discussion, but came across this:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/hummer/ (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/hummer/)
For the record, I own a 2001 4-Runner (a great vehicle...maybe a little small for the family, but a good 4x4, decent on washboard and forest service roads, and carries a shit ton of stuff on the rack I added -- highly recommended).
Oh, any my favorite Hummer-bashing bumper sticker, which I'd think was funny even if I owned one: "Nice Hummer. Sorry about your penis". [laugh]
I've had an FJ for the past year.
Fantastic car.
Great engine/tranny.
Good MPG (for an SUV).
Great for carrying dogs around.
Easy as hell to clean.
Everyone tells me it's awesome off-road (I've never cared to).
Stone reliable.
Low maintenance costs.
Great dealer network.
Does it have back doors? Saw one the other day and couldnt tell?
Quote from: rgramjet on December 07, 2008, 08:41:03 AM
Does it have back doors? Saw one the other day and couldnt tell?
It has one back door. It hinges horizontally. The glass also opens independently of the door if you like.
No what I meant was does it have doors for rear seat passengers? I figured it had some sort of rear hatch for cargo access...
Quote from: rgramjet on December 07, 2008, 09:49:59 AM
No what I meant was does it have doors for rear seat passengers? I figured it had some sort of rear hatch for cargo access...
It has suicide doors for the rear passengers - that was my biggest reason for going with the xterra over the FJ. The FJ rear passenger doors are a PIA to use in my opinion.
mitt
Quote from: ZLTFUL on December 03, 2008, 08:08:15 AM
Hey Jud, what's your guys' mailing address? I want to send Tiffers a soccer mom sticker, 4 cell phones, 2 1/2 make-up kits, a bag of fast food, and a Mocha Latte from Starbucks.
;D
I am going to be the primary driver, jackass.
She drives my TDI Jetta since she has 36mi round trip highway commute daily.
Less than a gallon of fuel per day [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 07, 2008, 10:48:11 AM
I am going to be the primary driver, jackass.
She drives my TDI Jetta since she has 36mi round trip highway commute daily.
Less than a gallon of fuel per day [thumbsup]
So the soccer mom care package should be addressed in your name then?
Quote from: Statler on December 07, 2008, 11:00:33 AM
So the soccer mom care package should be addressed in your name then?
soccereunuch
[laugh]
Quote from: rgramjet on December 07, 2008, 09:49:59 AM
No what I meant was does it have doors for rear seat passengers? I figured it had some sort of rear hatch for cargo access...
Oh, haha, yeah it has suicide doors. In my experience, they haven't been a PITA, but I imagine if you were trying to stuff 6 foot men back there daily, it would get old. I think the FJ is smaller overall than the Xterra as well. It tends to look bigger than t really is.
Quote from: darylbowden on December 07, 2008, 12:51:31 PM
Oh, haha, yeah it has suicide doors. In my experience, they haven't been a PITA, but I imagine if you were trying to stuff 6 foot men back there daily, it would get old. I think the FJ is smaller overall than the Xterra as well. It tends to look bigger than t really is.
The dimensions are about the same. The xterra passenger doors suck too, and the seating is cramped, but for lifting kids in and out of car seats, it is doable. I am not sure how lifting kids into a fj would be, but it seems like it would be hard if not impossible.
mitt
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 30, 2008, 06:52:01 PM
herm,
I completely agree with you.
However, finding one in that condition for a price less than what you can get an FJ Cruiser for (which has more space and better fuel economy) is virtually impossible.
yeah, but with the old (cheap, beat to crap) FJ40s, rust is a feature, not a bug. I could ford a stream up to my butt (I didn't have a snorkel, so couldn't sink the carb...) and didn't have to bail out the truck, since it already had drain holes!
Man, I miss my 1973 FJ40...
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3091718636_bc47a27d05.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: triangleforge on December 07, 2008, 07:16:01 PM
yeah, but with the old (cheap, beat to crap) FJ40s, rust is a feature, not a bug. I could ford a stream up to my butt (I didn't have a snorkel, so couldn't sink the carb...) and didn't have to bail out the truck, since it already had drain holes!
Man, I miss my 1973 FJ40...
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3091718636_bc47a27d05.jpg?v=0)
Your avatar and the picture bear a striking resemblance.
Quote from: Statler on December 07, 2008, 11:00:33 AM
So the soccer mom care package should be addressed in your name then?
Yeah, that is fine.
I have been called a lot worse in my life.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 07, 2008, 07:42:01 PM
I have been called a lot worse in my life.
Not lately, I've been slipping.
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 07, 2008, 07:36:00 PM
Your avatar and the picture bear a striking resemblance.
Plunging nose-first, mostly out of control into icy water is fun in all kinds of different vehicles. [thumbsup]
I'd love a 110, if someone else was buying. Love the looks. Instead I went with a '05 Jeep Unlimited. 109K so far, pretty reliable so far. Though my engine light came on the other day. Doh!
Quote from: Scooter Montgomery on December 08, 2008, 05:40:35 PM
I'd love a 110, if someone else was buying. Love the looks. Instead I went with a '05 Jeep Unlimited. 109K so far, pretty reliable so far. Though my engine light came on the other day. Doh!
Most of those lights these days are just LEDs, pull apart the dash and just snap it off the board. Problem fixed, no more annoying check engine light.
I haven't heard anyone mention the new Chevy Traverse....Not a full SUV but an awesome cross-over vehicle! I have a Wrangler and wouldn't give it up for anything, but I would love to have a Traverse as the "grocery getter" and family car!
The Unlimited has room before for bags groceries behind the rear seat not just a couple slices of [bacon].
Quote from: lethe on December 08, 2008, 05:43:35 PM
Most of those lights these days are just LEDs, pull apart the dash and just snap it off the board. Problem fixed, no more annoying check engine light.
or
fix the problem that is tripping the trouble code
you know
if you are into that sort of thing
Quote from: lethe on December 08, 2008, 05:43:35 PM
Most of those lights these days are just LEDs, pull apart the dash and just snap it off the board. Problem fixed, no more annoying check engine light.
Unless you live in a state that checks your ODB for trouble codes. Light is gone yes, but if the code is still there, it'll fail inspection ~
JM
Quote from: Mother on December 09, 2008, 06:27:59 AM
if you are into that sort of thing
I am. Maybe I'll get luck like the last time it happen. Disconnected the battery, cleared the computer, hooked it back together and it was all good again.
Going to go with a 2002 Lexus RX 300.
Don't really need all the room of a full sized sport utility, so a smaller vehicle is the way to go.
Quote from: the_Journeyman on December 09, 2008, 06:30:36 AM
Unless you live in a state that checks your ODB for trouble codes. Light is gone yes, but if the code is still there, it'll fail inspection ~
JM
I've gotten away with getting some very unsafe cars inspected around here, these days I can afford to do the right thing but I didn't always.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 21, 2008, 08:48:26 AM
Going to go with a 2002 Lexus RX 300.
Don't really need all the room of a full sized sport utility, so a smaller vehicle is the way to go.
that's quite a departure from an H3!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on December 21, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
that's quite a departure from an H3!
Went from full sized sport utility down to a small one.
analyzed the actual space requirements and took that into consideration when we made our choice.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 21, 2008, 08:48:26 AM
Going to go with a 2002 Lexus RX 300.
Don't really need all the room of a full sized sport utility, so a smaller vehicle is the way to go.
That should be a nice ride...
...for a YUPPY!! [laugh]
(so what if I own an Infiniti)j/k...it really should be nice. [thumbsup] I used to have a 1992 ES300 (I think that's the number) that was very nice...even at 10 years old.